२०६३ असोज ५, बिहीबार
“हामी नेपाली गरिब भएर भ्रष्ट बन्न पुगेका हैनौं, भ्रष्ट भएको कारणले गरिब भएका हौं, भ्रष्टाचारको कारण गरिब भएका हौं। पहिले मानिसहरु बाँच्नका लागि कमाउँथे, अहिले कमाउनका लागि बाँच्छन्” भ्रष्टाचारसम्बन्धी आफ्नो दोस्रो पुस्तक भ्रष्टाचारको अभियोगमा शाही आयोगले महिनौं हिरासतमा राखेका नेता प्रकाशमान सिंहको हातबाट विमोचन गरिसकेपछि एन्टी करप्सन एक्सपर्ट (उहाँको भिजिटिङ कार्डमा त्यही लेखिएको रहेछ) डा. नारायण मानन्धरलाई मैले भ्रष्टाचारको विषयमा सोधेको एउटा प्रश्नको जवाफमा उहाँको जवाफ थियो माथिको।
भिडियो हेर्नलाई तलको प्लेयरको प्ले बटनमा क्लिक गर्नुहोला। इन्टरनेट कनेक्सन स्लो छ भने सबैभन्दा पहिला बायाँ छेउमा रहेको पज बटन थिची केही समयपछि पुनः सोही बटन थिची हेर्नुहोला।
अथवा डाउनलोड गर्न यहाँ राइट क्लिक गरी सेभ टार्गेट एज गर्नुस्।
सामान्यतया हामीले व्यक्तिगत फाइदाका लागि हुने आर्थिक लेनदेनलाई मात्रै भ्रष्टाचारका रुपमा बुझ्ने गर्छौं। तर, भ्रष्टाचारको अर्थ व्यापक रहेछ। उहाँ भन्नुहुन्थ्यो- “भ्रष्टाचारको कुनै एउटा परिभाषा नै हुँदैन।”
“भ्रष्टाचारको स्वरुप परिवर्तनशील हुन्छ। कहिले कुनै बेला भ्रष्टाचार भएको कुरा अर्को बेला नहुन सक्छ। चाकडी, नातावाद-कृपावाद यही श्रेणीमा पर्छन्।”
उहाँले डेनिस र नर्वेजियनहरुको उदाहरण दिनुभयो- “उनीहरु होटलमा जाँदा लोग्ने स्वास्नी जाँदा पनि आ-आफ्नो बिल आ-आफैं तिर्छन्। हामीलाई त्यो अनौठो लाग्छ, स्वार्थीपना जस्तो लाग्छ। उनीहरु यहाँ आउँदा हामीले होटलमा दिने बक्सिसलाई अनौठो मानेर हेर्छन्। त्यसैले यसलाई सांस्कृतिक रुपमा पनि हेर्नु पर्ने हुन्छ।”
“नेपालमा सांस्कृतिक रुपमा भ्रष्टाचार गाभिएर रहेको छ”, उहाँले अगाडि बताउनु भयो, “नातावाद कृपावादलाई हामी भ्रष्टाचार नै भन्दैनौं। जस्तो मेरो कुनै बेरोजगार सालो छ भने उसको लागि जागिर खोजिदिनु मेरो कर्तव्य हुनजान्छ। पश्चिमी अवधारणामा चाहिँ त्यस्तो हुँदैन।”
“घुस खानेलाई मात्र हामीले भ्रष्टाचार भनिरहेका छौं, तर त्यो मात्र चाहिँ हैन,” उहाँले भन्नुभयो।
मेरो संसारका ब्लगहरु उहाँले पनि पढ्नु हुने र फरक नाममा कमेन्ट पनि कहिलेकाहीँ लेख्नुहुने भनी उहाँको मुखबाट सुन्दा भने गौरव लाग्यो।
उहाँको करप्सन एन्ड एन्टी करप्सन (फर्दर रिडिङ्स) शीर्षकको पुस्तक विमोचन होटल शंकर, लाजिम्पाटमा भएको थियो। उहाँसित मेरो परिचय थिएन तर उहाँकी जीवनसंगिनी परिचित भएको हुनाले उहाँकै निम्तोमा म त्यहाँ पुगेको थिएँ। विदेशीहरु खासै थिएनन्, (वा मैले नदेखेको हुनसक्छु) तर कार्यक्रम अंग्रेजीमा सञ्चालन गरिएको थियो। तर कार्यक्रम न पूरै अंग्रेजीमा भयो, न नेपालीमा। दुवै भाषाको प्रयोग प्रायः सबै वक्ताहरुले गरे।
पुस्तक विमोचनका लागि चाहिँ शाही आयोगले भ्रष्टाचारको अभियोगमा सजाय सुनाएर थुनामा राखेका पूर्वमन्त्री तथा प्रजातान्त्रिक काँग्रेसका नेता प्रकाशमान सिंहलाई बोलाइएको थियो। ‘मैले शाही आयोगविरुध्द राखेको अडानका कारण मलाई पुरस्कृत गर्न यसरी मलाई अतिथि बनाइएको होला’ भन्दै प्रकाशमान सिंह मख्ख परेको देख्दा हाँसो उठ्यो। भ्रष्टाचारको विषयमा विज्ञहरुका गहन विचारहरु व्यक्त भइरहेका बेला एक नेताको विचार भने निकै हल्का सुनिन्थ्यो।
उहाँ भन्नुहुन्थ्यो- देशमा कुनै मेगा प्रोजेक्ट सञ्चालन भए त्यसमा भ्रष्टाचार भएकै हुन्छ भन्ने मानसिकता हामीमा छ।
योजनाविद् पृथ्वीराज लिगल भन्नुहुन्थ्यो- भ्रष्टाचार कहिले पनि नियन्त्रण गर्न सकिँदैन, घटाउन मात्र सकिन्छ।
देश पूरै भ्रष्टाचारमा लिप्त छ भनिन्छ तर भ्रष्टाचारको मात्रा बढेको हो कि भ्रष्टाचार गर्नेहरु बढेका हुन् जस्ता प्रश्न पनि त्यहाँ उठाइयो। कानुन बनाएर मात्र भ्रष्टाचार नरोकिने कुरा पनि त्यहाँ उठे। भ्रष्टाचारका वृहत् स्वरुपका बारेमा उठेका कुरा पछि पनि मलाई भने डा. मानन्धरको एउटै कुराले मनमा छोइरह्यो- “हामी गरिब भएर भ्रष्ट भएका हैनौं, भ्रष्ट भएर गरिब भएका हौं।” हुन पनि भ्रष्टाचारबाट सीमित व्यक्ति मात्र धनी हुन्छ, पूरै देश भने गरिब हुन्छ। भ्रष्टाचारबाट थोरैलाई फाइदा हुन्छ, धेरैलाई बेफाइदा हुन्छ। शायद त्यसैले होला, भ्रष्टाचार बढी भएको देश गरिब हुने गरेको।
No related posts.
Dr Manandhar
I am deadly sure that you will vote for anti corrution.But besides writing a good book,if you have to answer sincerely,could you please tell that whether you have done any sort of corruption or not?because writing an anti corruption book does not prove that one is fair.
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It is somewhat different topic to discuss. But the expert did not say why are corrupted? He can’t just say that we are poor because we are corrupted. If he does not go to detail then his saying is the same both way. I think , we are poor neither of being corrupted, nor we are corrupted of being poor.
It is upto the expert to explain this. But, I can put some points why I think so. The rich are more corrupt than poor. If one becomes poor by being corrupt then all corrupt would be beggar now. But that’s not true.
The corruption involves money so that one is enticed to see relation between poverty and corruption.But that is not true.
We are corrupt because we don’t fear law. We are corrupt because we have power in our hand. We are corrupt because our bosses are corrupt. We are corrupt because our society does not loath corrupt. We are corrupt because we think we can buy respect and happiness by money. We are corrupt because we don’t believe on ourself.
It is my way of thinking. If somebody does not like my idea, comments are welcome.
Krishna
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Typo – *appreciate* ( sorry)
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Narayan Manandhar ji, thank you for sparing your time to answer here. Yes I would very much like the electronic copy of your book. Unfortunately, I couldn’t find your email address anywhere, would apprecaite if you can forward me the download link at infidelNP@gmail.com . Thank you
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In the context of Nepal, Selling personal view in the name of Corruption or Anti-Corruption, is this a corruption or anti-corruption?
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Response from Narayan Manandhar
1. I would like to thank Umeshji for posting the news and also helping me have some coverage.
2. The book was personally funded, no involvement of any donors or NGOs. I have even opted the book to be commented from totally new people in the field of anti-corruption. If I was looking for big news coverage, I could have approached ministers and people in position.
3. There are some confusion over tips. A tip could be corruption if it is made to manipulate restaurant bills or with some other intentions like securing nice place in the restaurant. It is not corruption, if it is givenpurely on a voluntary. For some idea on this, please, refer to a book by Susan Rose Ackerman, Corruption and Government: causes, Consequences and Reform.
4. By citing how Danes and Norwegian couple share their restauant bills, I am refering to the culture context of social behaviour -which may look mean to us like the way they look at baksheeh. It is mere a manifestation of extreme monitization of the society.
5. Any body wishing to have free electronic copy of the book, including the first voluem, published by TI Nepal, they can email to me.
6. The price of the book is NRs150. If some people think it is to too expensive for a book of 180 pages, they can contact me for a free gift. Within couple of days it will be in the market.
7. On September 18, 2006 I have put down my last piece on corruption in The Kathmandu Post. That is my final thesis on corruption.
Many many thanks for both positive and negative comments.
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It is interesting to read comments on corruption. Corruption exists everywhere but it is in different magnitude. Dr Manandhar gives example from the countries where state has ensured minimum requirement for health, educaiton, food, shelter and clothings for every citizen. Despite such social security from the state they are not free of corruption at times big scandalous also like in Japan. When one member of family needs to support all members in te jopint family it is obvious that one should find job opportunity for other member be that called neoptism or not but it is a practical need in real sense. You see appointing party cadres, chamchas,( which is so rampant now also even after april change) and money givers are worse than trying to help a family emmebr to get a work because one need work to survive and this only can help to minimize corruption specially in our society if incorporated with little mopre scientifc apporach of living cost. See government gives a salary of 3000 Rs to a peon who has to support one wife, 2-3 children in Kathmandu metropolitin city. Even this is not sufficient to rent accomodation and how they will eat.
The main problem in our country is Finance ministers and reknowned
economists earns lacs of ruppees per month through NGO/INGO and government officials in higher posts earns from foreiegn visits and also every day meeting bhatta in several meetings of no use apart from illegal source of income. They never feel to look into the basic needs and stabilization of prices of daily commodities. Until such is done , we can not hhope minimization of corruptuion in real sense. This situation even kills the remaining honest people and able people but unwilling to compromise with their committment to non corrutpion will leave to other country where at elast one can earn legally to meet basic needs. To really rreduce financial corruption in nepal income tax and source of income while depositing in banks or while buying or selling things must be provided. We can see houses worth of 10 million ruppees of a person who is just a government official. The salary of PM in Nepal is 22000 a month. Even if we assume he save everything without deduction of tax also it is around 260000 a year. All know that how big houses are their of those posted in revenoue , income tax and custom offices. When Umeshji showed new housing area and wrote one house worth of more than 50 lacs, can any governemnt service holder wth fair income can think to buy such houses?
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यसो हेर्दा किताब को बिमोचन कुनै ठुलै होटेलमा भाको जस्तो छ । यदि हो भने के यो एउटा आँफै मा ठुलो भ्रस्टाचार होइन र । नेपाल जस्तो गरीब देश मा किताब को बिमोचन् एसरि गर्नु पनि भ्रस्टाचार नै होइन र?
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Yes I was wrong and the comment made by me regarding the Tip being given in all countries was just an assumption. Thank you Manandharji from Japan for the correction.
Even though we have established the fact that in some countries like Japan, Spain, Italy, Iceland the culture of tipping is unheard of, I still hold a firm belief that the tipping is not something one should compare with the bribery. Granted, when you tip a serviceman like a police officer, then the tip loses it’s meaning. But tipping in the restaurant ? Somebody gave the example of Korea, but isn’t 10% service tax included in the bill there ? That is the tip.
Funny story is in USA . The IRS requires employers of restaurants to ensure that the total tip income reported to them during any pay period is at least 8% of their total receipts for that period. If the reported total is less than 8% , employers must allocate the difference between the actual tip income reported and 8% of gross receipts. So in countries like USA tipping is mandatary.
Personally I believe tipping is the way to show your appreciation. And as you tip someone after the service’s been provided, in my book it is not a bribe. You people are free to set your mind and can define it as you wish .
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yo kura prithvi narayan le pahile nai bhaneko thiyo,school ma kitab kasaile padhenan ki kya ho
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We have been talking about curruption since long time. Actully i am hearing these coversation on this topic since my childhood in Kathmandu. Why it has not been controled? We love to talk about this but we do nothing seriously to control curruption. We should find out the root cause of the curruption, which is not so easy and it must be done by the dedicated and patriot team. I am seenig that personnels with these both quality are left behind by the currupted people. I would say one thing that Currption is fostering in Nepal by the inproper activities of educated people.
Lets wipe out those who are the main reason of this.
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कसै कसैले कदर् पत्र ..पुरस्कार ..र ..टिप को बारेमा बुजेकै छैन .तेस्ता ले प्याच्च कमेन्त लेखिहाल्छ. लातो देश मा गादी तन्नेरि भन्ने जस्तै..
मनन्धर जेपियेन्
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मलाई infidel को कुरामा कमेन्त गर्न मन्लग्यो…सबै देश हरुमा टिप को चलन छ भन्ने कुरा ..उहाको गलत बुझाई हो. जापान मा पनी टिप दिने चलन छैन… जस्ले पैसा को महोत्व बुजेको हुन्छ ..तेस्ले टिप अथवा ..बक्सिस दिदैन . तर पस्चीमी हरु ..पैसाको महोत्व बुजेकोछैन भन्न खोजेको हैन.जापान मा पनी पस्चीमी हरु धेरै काम गर्छ तर ..टिप दिदैन ..टिप मध्येपुर्ब एसीया तिर धेरै दिने चलन छ..जुन तेल भन्दारहरु भयेको देश मा जहा अल्छी धनाध्ये हरु आफुले टिप बादेको आधार मा ..जीबन बाचेको हुन्छ .नेपाल मा राणा हरुले पनी बक्सिस बाधेको आधार मा 104 बर्ष चलायेकै हुन .. नेपाल मा ..युरोपीऐन आयो भने झर्छ भन्ने मान्नेता राख्छ .. नकि जापानी आयो भने.. तर टिप दिनु भनेको भिख दीनु हो..त्येसैले टिप दिने मान्छेलाई अरुभन्दा बढी सेवा गरेको हुन्छ तेसैले त टिप पाउछ..
हात्ती बलियो कि..बलियो भन्ने जस्तै ..
मानन्धर जेपिऐन्
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हामी भ्रष्ट भयेर गरीब भयेका हौ- धेरै उत्तम .
तर डेनिस दम्पति र टीप्सको कुरा भ्रष्टाचारसन्ग अलि बुझियेन .
भ्रष्ट समाज हेर्न चाही अमेरिका बसे हुन्छ .
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Rocky,
have rwead your comment on avrious issues but the contwent remains the same. so when are you going to rock the janayandolan III, if you are outside the nation, dont expect ordinray people to loose more live, if you are in nepal, better start it as you refer to palace, rna, pancha and old regime, all party cadres and maoist were also pancha until B.S. 2042 including Devendra Pandey (king Mahendra/Birendra ko sachib, Kanak – inherient of Rani Jagdamba property and doing mooz, Dr. Arun Sayami palace ko jach bhuj samitit ko jachus and many other to follow) and dont forget you are one of them from the old regime.
Rocky, it is easier said than don’t
Shanti Nepal.
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Kasailai yeti bitrisna chha ki nepal ko condition prati ki yo video herera mero ek jana uncle le “pahilo kura yo anti curruption experts haru nai bhrasta chhan” re.
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One more bibio to Manandhar: Sociobiology: A New Synthesis by Edward Wilson. Tell me your reflections on it after you read the book. My email: nepal_democratic@gmail.com
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Dr. Manandhar Zindabaad….
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Mr. Manandhar is right. We need to appreciate this great man who has been constantly writing on various aspects of corruption.
He rightly claimed that corruption is part of our culture. Because of that there is no action against people who promote nepotism like Suresh Raj Sharma of Kathmandu University. The presence of brothers,daughters,sons of Suresh Raj, Sitaram, Bhadraman and other distant relatives in Kathmandu University shows that even highly educated people are promoting corruption.
One simple example of the effects of corruption in the form of nepotism in KU is the departure of very talented professors from KU. Suresh Raj has maintained a web of nepotism in such a way that no upright faculty member can ever stay in KU for a long time. To run hegemony, nepotism is very useful and it is definitely a corruption.
Many many thanks to Umesh Jee for raising this issue. We need to keep on raising our voices on corruption to make Lokatantra successful in Nepal.
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Corruption is a ‘job’ of ‘anti-corruption experts’ like Manandhar. If there is no corruption, these so-called experts will have no niche to survive on. I think, Manandhar is doing his job well.
However, let me briefly come to some reflections on the post by Umesh.
Corruption is a social evil. I agree. But it has no direct relationship with poverty or underdevelopment. I don’t think Japan is a corruption free country, and I don’t think Japan is poor. An ‘expert’ like Manandhar may explain corruption as the cause of our poverty because he earns hell lot of money from an international non-gov. organization for trying to ‘stop’ corruption. However, we deserve our right to tell him that he is lying.
Our poverty and underdevelopment has other significant reasons. I request the expert to pay his attention to some other books besides those cheap anti-corruption non-academic ‘bestsellers’. Andre Gunder Frank (Re-Orient …) can be a good start.
Corruption is deeply rooted in human psychology. I hope the ‘expert’ knows that corruption can be reduced to some extent by establishing and strengthening the state system. However, it is weired and sometimes disgusting to accuse leaders and bureaucrats for being corrupt. I honestly don’t believe that the expert has never violated or tried to violate the rules to maximize his interest.
Finally, his examples about other ‘corruption free’ countries seem to be unauthentic and childish. I would suggest the expert to have a bit information on the concerned countries and their system including the culture before bragging in public. The expert seems to have fallen in the same stupid self-humiliation when he says that foreigners (specifically the donor country for which he works) are better than we are.
Good Luck to the Expert
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भ्रष्टचारीहरुलाइ एक दम कडा सजाय दिनु पर्छ । अनिमात्र यो देशको विकास हुन्छ ।
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होइन हो उमेश जि यो लेख पढ्दा त केहि दिन अघि तपाइले पाएको कदर पत्र र नगद पनि भ्रष्टाचारनै भएन र ?
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PLEASE PAY AN ATTENTION:
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Around 200 people die in Nepal each year due to snakebite. Unavailability of anti snake venom has always been a major problem in rural areas.
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WHAT OLD REGIME DID FOR YEARS & YEARS? The situation mentioned above truely tells us what rural people are getting from OLD REGIME!!!
What these rural people are getting are from OLD REGIME?
- A RICHEST KING IN THE WORLD;
- Only 5% of these higher class people are benefitting from OLD REGIME because it is their REGIME, NOTHING TO DO WITH THE REST OF 95% OF PEOPLE.
- MOST CORRUPTED LEADERS;
GET RID OF OLD REGIME to build a new nation.
We need Janaandolon#3 sooner than later!!!
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सबै भन्दा पहिले लुट लाई कम गर्नु पर्छ. सर्कारी कार्यालयमा पहिले टेबल मुनी बाट लिन्थे तर अहिले खुला रुपमा नै मागछन. यो लुट नभए के त?मावोबादी ले कन्चटमा बन्दुक ताकेर स्वईछिक चन्दा दिनुस भन्ने लाई के भन्ने ? भष्टाचार कि लुट? जब सम्म नेपालमा यस्ता भीकारीलाई CONTROL गरीदैन तब सम्म नेपालमा उन्नति हुनसक्दैन.
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** A root cause of making Nepal, a poor country **
It’s true that Nepal has became a poor country because of corruptions at all levels.
The comments expressed by “Freedom Lover” is very interesting and he/she has clearly defined the appropriate meaning of corruptions.
I do find a number of interesting comments on “Tips”. I believe that by giving “Tips”, you are corrupting the system of service in restaurant. This is not the right thing. In some restaurants in developed countries, you are prohibited to give tips to the waiter.
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ट्रन्स्परेन्सी इन्ट्रनेस्नल लगयत DFDI, CWIN, जस्ता संस्थाहरु निकै भ्रस्ट छन भनिन्न्छ नि । कसो ?
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THIS SHOULD BE GOOD TITTLE TO REFLECT CURRENT NEPAL SITUATION:
” HAMI GARIB BHAYEKO LE RAJA RAHEKO HOYINA, RAJA BHAYEKO LE HAAMI GARIB BHAYEKO!
How 95% of people can feel of having their own rights, prosperity, peace & dignity when OLD REGIME has been working for the benefits of 5% of people [royal palace, ranas, rna, panche & servant leaders].
OLD REGIME have been doing nothing more than sucking nation & its people.
The sooner we can get rid of old regime is the better for 95% of people.
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टिप दिने चलन यहाँ कोरियामा छैन । मलाई त के लाग्छ भने टिप दिनु भनेको कसैको ईमान खरिद गर्नु जस्तै हो । टिपको कुनै रेट हुँदैन, त्यसैले त्यसको दुरूपयोग हुने निकै संभावना हुन्छ । अनि अर्को कुरा, अमेरिकनले टिप दिन्छ भन्दैमा त्यो नै सबैले मान्नै पर्छ भन्ने पनि त छैन , अमेरिकनले भ्रष्टचार गर्दैनन् भन्नेपनि त छैन । कुनै होटलको वेटरको तलबको जिम्मा होटलवालाले लिन पर्छ न कि ग्राहकहरूले ।
टिप दिने बिक्रितिक चलनले हाम्रो समाज नराम्रो संग गाँजिएको छ । ट्याक्सी चढेपछि डाईभरले ग्राहकको चानचुन पैसा फिर्तागर्न हिच्किचाउँछ… मानौं ऊ जबरजस्ती टिप को रूपमा त्यो पैसा आफै राख्न चाहन्छ । यस्ता बिक्रिति अति छन् हाम्रो देशमा जुन हामी सजिलैसंग पचाउन सकेका छौं ।
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There is consensus that corruption is the universal activity whether it is in developed and developing countries. We cannot rule out the fact.
But what we need to understand is:
1. Whether political, social and economic corruption exist in developed countries or limited to financial corruption.
2. What is the extent of impact of those policy level corruption in the continuation of poverty and in making absolute poverty to the Nepalese.
Citing some examples: an announcement of rise in the price of fuel, could push the whole Nepalese into economic limitations, while such decisions are made based on insider trading!!!
3. Developed countries are khandan countries. The corruption hardly affects directly to people and economy though it influences in national exchequer, but the corruption in developing countries, whatever its type and form, affects to the whole Nepalese in absolute and relative terms including national economy.
Citing some examples: what is the required pace of capital formation based on national investment??? Whether our planned national investment have been injected in the national economy and society hundrend percent? Of course not.
Today, Nepalese are pursuing to be millionnaire overnight without any efforts and labour from political activist to a illiterate migrated labour from most remote parts of country.
In this context, good governance itself is not suffficient to minimize or control corruption. We need to address the transformation of people conscience that such are not worth for the whole life. Civic society could play roles to some extent. Liberalization and decentralisation also could play catalytic role. Thirdly, transparency in earning and systemtic record from the government is essential as in developed countries. Money laundering and parallel economy must be controlled.
More and more things have to be done. Our masters if cannot demonstrate themselves as good examples, then there is no need to discuss further.
If the BJP chairman, or the Congress foreign minister IN INDIA HAVE be sacked instantly just some weeks back for the sake of party and nation, WE CANNOT EXPECT ANYTHING FROM NEPALI CONGRESS OR UML OR ANY, WHO CAN PROVIDE PATRONAGE TO PEOPLE LIKE KHUM BAHAU, GOVIDA RAJ JOSHI, OR BIJAYA GACHEEDAR, AND SO LONG LIST.
My best wishes to the author who atleast attempted to throsw some lights on corruption amidst scuh epidemic, though i do not have an opportunity to study this book.
Freedom Lover
Freedom Lover
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stone jee,
Please read the post and my writeup well.Its not about whether giving tips increases the quality of service or not.Ofcourse it does,please dont imagine anyone can be stupid enough to not know that.What i was saying is,how can foreigners come to Nepal and be amazed at tips being given when its a common practice in the west.
Anyways i hope its not like,”laato desh ma gaado tanneri” because in our country everyone is an expert,every doctor is ‘baristha’ and everyone has skyhigh ego although their knowledge about the specific field of expertise is very limited.I hope this is not one of those cases and this writer knows what he is talking about.
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Stone, I guess you are confused between bribe and a coutesy. You appreciate the service and you show it by giving a tip. Alright if you have to pay prior to the service, then yes it is a bribe. If you have to pay him/her 10 rupees extra to get your steak well done, then yes it is a bribe. And yes it is also a bribe when you have pay a maître d’ for a good table, but no way a tip to the waiter/ess can be considered as a bribe.
The book sounds good though. A very touchy subject.
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Thanks for putting nice blog about this anti-corruption expert.
We do have a lot of CORRUPTION EXPERTS IN OUR COUNTRY, so its nice to know that we do have atleast a person who considers himself anti-corruption expert.
Bravo Dr. Narayan Manandhar !!!
You did not inform how much does the book cost, and can it be purchased online? He needs to publicize it in Nepalese people living in US and UK, as this subject would be of great interest, as most of people are moving out of Nepal due to Corruption and lack of governance, which is basically the root of most of our problems.
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I think Sports Lover did not realize why his/her waiter wail at him? Though pay for waiter/waiteress is not great, the meaning of Tip is to leave something for the service the person has performed and is in the wish of one who receives the service. The service provided by the waiter should not depend on the amount of Tip that has been left. Next time go to the same resturant and see how the waiter treats you if he/she still remembers you. I am sure you won’t get a good service. But try a different resturant or a bar and tip the server very well, may be few extra than you generally do. You will get better service, quicker service than the rest. Is this fair to other people who are waiting for the service? Probably not. But do we enjoy being servered this well despite the extra pay, definitely yes. In this term, this is a kind of Bribe.
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sports lover ले भनेको कुरा मलाईपनि चित्तबुझ्यो । टिपको चलन त सबै देशहरुमा छन् । फेरी Transperency International भन्ने संस्थाले जारीगर्ने भ्रष्टचार संबन्धि रिपोर्टमा सबैभन्दा कम भ्रष्टाचार हुने देश आइसल्यान्ड र फिनल्यान्डमा समेत टिप दिन्छन् त है। कुनै पनि विदेशी नेपालको होटेलमा दिने टिप देखेर जिल्ल परे होलान् जस्तोचाँहि मलाई पनि लाग्दैन।
अर्कै एउटा प्रसंगमा, नेताहरुलाई जति गाली गरे तापनि, राजाको शासनमा सन २००४ बाट भ्रष्टाचार व्यापक रुपमा बढेर गएको देखिन्छ।
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I completely agree with the tile of this entry. I just had a glance on this entry and one question came to my mind. Please let me know if anybody can answer this.
Everybody thinks himself as the CLEANEST person in this world, even the most corrupted one. How can I know whether Dr. Manandhar or somebody who vows for anti-corruption is corrupted or not. Just a thinking, now personal interest with anybody associated in this entry.
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I could not understand how TIPS in the restaurent becomes corruption.Is he a real expert? Here in US,u HAVE to give tips.The waiters(servers) and other staff have a very less basic salary and their income depends a lot on the tips.
I faced one incidence myself when i forgot to give tips to a guy who brought food for me from a restaurent and he wailed,he just gets 200$ a month and depends on tips to survive so i should consider him.
I dont know how he can say westeners feel in such a way to tips.If he is a regular visitior of mysansar,i wont mind getting his view on this.
I think rest of his views seem quite resonable.
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We need to revise our salary so that we can atleast afford basic needs of our life and there must be provision for social security as well as free schooling so that no one need to think for wrong doing to earn money. We also need some regulation and proper implementation of it to counter unnecessary expenditure on social events such as “Daijo” and many more that exist in our society. Its human nature that always desire for secure life and if it could be arrange by government system then I feel we can make the people more productive and bussiness oriented rather than current tendency of investing on non productive things like land etc.
I don’t think corruption can be control without taking such majors and law itself will not be enough to stop those.
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