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महेन्द्रका कारण सगरमाथा चीनको !

-अनुराधा-
एउटा कुरा भ्रम नपालौं साथी हो सगरमाथा नेपालको मात्र हैन, चीनको पनि हो। हामीले भन्दा सगरमाथाको नाम बेचेर चाइनाले धेरै व्यापार गरेको छ विश्वमा ।

माअ‍ो त्से तुङको पालासम्म, भनौँ न वीपी कोइराला गृहमन्त्री भएका बेला । चाइनासँगको वार्ताका क्रममा चीनले सगरमाथा हाम्रो भन्ने दावी गरेपछि गणेशमान सिंहसहितको नेपालको सरकारी टोलीले सगरमाथा पारीका गाउँलेहरुले नेपाल सरकारलाई कर तिरेको रसिद पेस गरेका थिए। त्यसपछि चाइनिज टोली सगरमाथा नेपालकै हो भन्नेमा विश्वस्त भएको थियो। तर….

तर पछि राजा महेन्द्रले चाइनालाई रिझाउन सगरमाथाको उत्तरी मोहडा अर्थात् तिब्बततर्फको मोहडा चाइनालाइ दिएपछि सगरमाथा चीन र नेपालको सीमा बीचमा रह्यो । सगरमाथा चढ्ने सजिलो मोहडा तिब्बततिर परेका कारण र उताबाट सगरमाथा चढ्दा रोयल्टी पनि कम बुझाए हुने भएको कारण वर्षेनी ठूलो संख्यामा सगरमाथा चढ्नेको लर्को उतातिरकै लामो हुन्छ। र, फाइदा चाइनाले नै बढी लिन्छ ।

त्यसैले सगरमाथा हाम्रो हो भनेर दाबी गर्नु पहिले तिब्बती मोहडापनि कसरी हाम्रो बनाउने सोचौँ। एउटा कुरो के सत्य हो भने त्यसको टुप्पो नेपालतिर पर्छ तर त्यसले पश्चिमा मुलुकहरुमा कुनै प्रभाव पार्दैन। पश्चिमा किताबहरु हेर्नुभयो भने तपाईँले जहाँ पनि सगरमाथा नेपाल र चीनको बोर्डरमा पर्छ भनेर लेखेको भेट्नुहुनेछ । नेपाली नेताहरुले नेपालका नदीनाला भारतलाई बेचेजस्तै राजा महेन्द्रले सगरमाथाको एक मोहडा चाइनालाई दिएका थिए। त्यो पाएबापत होला शायद् चाइना राजाका पक्षमा सँधै रहदै आएको।

चिनियाँहरुका अगाडि सगरमाथा हाम्रो हो भन्नुभयो भने उनीहरुले हाम्रो हो भनेर ढिपी गर्छन् । हुनपनि उनीहरुको पाठ्यपुस्तकमा समेत सगरमाथा चीनको हो भनेर उल्लेख गरिएको छ रे।

[यो विचार सगरमाथाको उचाइ कुनलाई मान्ने शीर्षकको ब्लगमा कमेन्टका रुपमा प्राप्त भएको हो। केही अघि यसै ब्लगको कमेन्टमा पनि चीनमा अध्ययनरत एक नेपाली विद्यार्थीले त्यहाँका पाठ्यपुस्तकमा सगरमाथा चीनको हो भनेर लेखिएको आफूले देखेको बताएका थिए। चीनमा रहेका नेपालीहरुले यो कुराको थप पुष्टि गरिदिए हुन्थ्यो- मेरो संसार]

केही गलत सम्झौता भएको हुनसक्छ
-रकी/सांघाइ, चीन-

अनुराधाजीको कुरा सही हो।

हामीले एभरेस्ट नेपालमा पर्छ भन्ने जस्ता कुरा गर्दा चिनियाहरु तीन छक्क पर्ने गर्छन्।

चिनियाहरुका केही लोकप्रिय गीतहरु छन् (राष्ट्रिय गीत जस्तो) जसमा यस्ता शब्दहरु छन् “हाम्रो महान राष्ट्र, जहाँ चोमोलुङमा, विश्वको सर्वोच्च शिखर छ…”आदि इत्यादि। हामी नेपालीहरु यस्ता गीतहरु केही वर्षदेखि सुन्दासुन्दा वाक्क भइसकेका छौँ।

सगरमाथा (माउन्ट एभरेस्ट) नेपालमा पर्छ भन्दा एक जना पनि चिनियाँले विश्वास गर्दैनन्। उनीहरु विश्वको सर्वोच्च शिखर उनीहरुको देशमा पर्छ भन्ने कुरामा मात्र विश्वास गर्छन्।

चिनियाहरुसित विवाद गर्दा हामी सगरमाथाको उत्तरी भाग तिब्बत साइडमा पर्छ तर यसको अधिकांश भाग र सर्वोच्च शिखरको टुप्पो नेपालमा पर्छ आदि इत्यादी कुरामा जोड दिने गर्छौँ।

मलाई लाग्छ, हाम्रो पुराना शासक र चिनियाँ सरकारका बीचमा केही गलत सम्झौता भएको हुनसक्छ।

[चीनबाट प्राप्त यो विचार यसै ब्लगको कमेन्टमा प्राप्त भएको अंग्रेजी कमेन्टको नेपाली भावानुवाद हो- मेरो संसार]

38 comments to महेन्द्रका कारण सगरमाथा चीनको !

  • we are human so we must know abuot country,caste,religion,cultur, language etc so i clearly know about my cuontry and my language and my nations porperty so the nepal is my country and the sagarmatha (mounteverest) is my nations porperty(sampati) so i said in the world the sagarmatha(mounteverest) is nepalease but never wouldnt chinease. (from malaysia)

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  • kaligandaki

    …….oh,.we r loosing nepalese nationality…day to day……

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  • jiwen

    jabo sagarmata nepal ko ho bhanera k furti lagaunu paryo ab. Madesh jati india le aafno banauna lageko bela sagarmatha china le aafno bhanchha bhane bhanna dinu ni? estei sthiti hundei gayo bhane bholi gayara eka jamana ma nepal bhanne euta desh thiyo bhanne time aaunchha.

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  • sanjiv nepali

    sagarmathaa ko ke kura garnu ra nepali le yahako neta bhanauda haruko niyat here bhujhinchh, yo desh ma ta aafno shrimati lai nai kasai le mero bhane pani chuplager basnu parchh nepal ko simanako ta kurai nagarau!!!

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  • bikash sena gurung

    Buddha india ma jenmeko sagarmatha chaina ma paryo kura thikai ho kina vane nepal adhi india ko rajai garne thalo ra adhi china ko rajai garne thalo hoina ra nepali janta haru …
    bikas gurung

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  • gautam

    HO HO HAMRA RAJA MAHARAJA, RAJ NETAHRULE UNIHARULAI KHUSI BANAUNA NADI NALA INDIA LAI ,EVEREST PANI CHINA SARKARLE KHAYAKO SATYA HUNU PARCHA.HISTORY SAGAMATHA PARIKA VILLAGE LE TAX TIREKA PRAMAN AJHY PANI RASTIYA AVILEKH MA HUNU PARCHA.ATA MAOBADILE KINA INDIA LAI MATRA BISTABADI BHANCHA?
    GAUTAM

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  • GN Gurung

    Lato Nepali haru… SagarMatha Nepal kai ho, Everest British ko ani Chomolongma Chinako. That’s it.

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  • Buddhi thapa

    अनुराधा जि
    बिस्तारै – हैन् हजुर आज त इडिया ले आज नै नेपाल लाइ आफनो भनेर दावि ग्रन् थालि सकेका छन् | म यतिनै भन्न् चाह्न्न्छु कि अब फेरि एउटा नया आन्दोलन हामिले छेड्नु प्रने छ |

    यहां बेचिदिन्छ्न् वहां बेचि बेचिदिन्छ्न् ,
    समय मां नै आंख खोलेनओ भनि ,
    इ नेता ले भोलि नेपाल बेचिदिन्छ्न् ||

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  • J' bosco

    friends, start another jana andolan to prove that Mt. everest is ours.Lets burn effigy of China and jana gherau of Chinese embessy.its our favorite pasttime hehe

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  • hari gautam

    We all know that he is the father of underground king ganandra.I think Gana also learn from Mahendra To sell property of nepal.And what will learn Paras we have to look….? ok

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  • Surendra Samant

    I started to hate the china when they supported to Ashoj 18. I never compare china to india. China is the one of the stupid country. They took Tibbet and now they started to say mt. everst is mine. When I heared china is saying mt. mine I really feel sad.Hope that our fully democratic government will talk to china about this matter.

    Surendra, USA

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  • not only in chinese curriculum but in indian curriculum also highest pick is theirs . india is always used to undermined nepal its different matter but in chinese context ruller keep their people in dark. they even dont know bout “buddha”,bout tibbet and their political system . its my experience with chinese student in europe who are genious in technical subjects.in real chinese people are kept in dark .

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  • Nischal Karki

    hare shiva uta india ko pathyapustak ma gautam buddha india ma janmeko bhanera padchan ani lumbini india mai parcha bhani dabi garchan. yeta sagarmatha pani china ko……………… Nepal ko chai Rahyo k ta????????????????????????????????????

    (ma india padhda mero teacher ra mero gautam buddha nepal ko ki india ko bhanera discuss pareko thiyo tara uniharu ko pustak ma ta buddha india ko bhani lekheko rahecha)

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  • Dear brothers and sisters,
    Yes , many different opinion about Mt.Everest.No wonder Chinese and even Taiwanese schools are teaching in thier elementry schools about Mt Everest is belong to china.Very interesting thing is that i am teaching in a same way even i am nepali.I was being “KAG KO HUL MA BAKULLA” for many times but we must be sure that MT everest is belong to nepal and controlled by nepali government which chinese government knows the past history and they are not going to say any single words and never try to go against such question so we must follw and see the reality with legally proof….mr devkota taiwan

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  • Sushila ,

    हैन यी ‘शाह’का सन्तानहरुले के के बेचेका छन् हँ ?? कि नेपाल नै बेचिसके ! अब नेपाल बेचिसकीएको रहेछ भन्ने समाचार छापिन बेर छैन । हे भगवान् ! अझ भोलीका दिनहरुमा के के सुन्नु पर्नेहोला ????

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  • arjun bhusal

    EVEREST FACTS

    Age of Everest:
    Everest was formed about 60 million years ago
    Elevation:
    29,035 (8850m)-found to be 6′ higher in 1999
    Name in Nepal:
    Sagarmatha (means: goddess of the sky)
    In Tibet:
    Chomolungma: (means: mother goddess of the universe)
    Named after:
    Sir George Everest in 1865 ,the British surveyor-general of India. Once known as Peak 15
    Location:
    Latitude 27° 59′ N…..Longitude 86° 56′ E It’s summit ridge seperates Nepal and Tibet
    First Ascent:
    May 29,1953 by Sir Edmund Hillary, NZ and Tenzing Norgay, NP, via the South Col Route
    First Solo Ascent:
    Aug. 20,1980, Reinhold Messner, IT, via the NE Ridge to North Face
    First winter Ascent:
    Feb. 17,1980 -L.Cichy and K. Wielicki, POL
    First Ascent by an American:
    May 1,1963, James Whittaker, via the South-Col
    Mt. Everest rises a few milimeters each year due to geological forces
    Everest Name:
    Sir George Everest was the first person to record the height and location of Mt. Everest, this is where Mt.”Everest” got its name from(In american language)

    In 2002, the Chinese People’s Daily newspaper published an article making a case against the continued use of the English name for the mountain in the Western world, insisting that it should be referred to by its Tibetan name. The newspaper argued that the Chinese name preceded the English one, as Mount Qomolangma was marked on a Chinese map more than 280 years ago.[3]

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  • Arun Gurung

    It’s a good issue. Let me tell something of my experience on it.
    When I came here in beijing, it gave me huge surprise and anger to know that many chinese don’t know where Nepal lies. Not only Nepal, many chinese don’t know about many other smaller countries and their geographic locations. China itself is another world, with 1.3 billions people and moreover for last more than 50 years, the state has commnunist rule and people were like isolated from rest of world. All the text books are written based on central government communist policies. Some provinces like Tibet, Xinjiang(far western province) are far from Beijing and it’s no surprise they don’t get big attention from state. Some of my chinese friends told me since childhood their only job was to study and study for 18hours…18hours everyday and no weekends. To enter university is the biggest dream of all ordinary chinese family. Therefore study and get high exam scores are the most important for all chinese chidren. And soceity and parents and even state encourage those who have good exam marks, absolutely no time to play (i used to be very surprised to see chinese learn to play football n other sports in university), luxury(i mean entertain) like us. So chinese themselves say to score high in exams, noone can beat them. They are used to it. But for other things like GK (General Knowledge), creative things, they can’t compete. And many times, they don’t care about these. Like in nepal, for most of young generation US is the dream land. With such rapid development recently, China doesn’t look and care other countries in the world except US. So now I don’t feel shocked when they say they don’t know where nepal lies, but try to explain them. Everyone seems to be interested in bright and developed countries. I know many of us also don’t know many smaller or poor countries across the world, and we don’t bother at all.
    Chinese have their own way of thinking and lifestyle, many times exactly opposite to what we have or seen. We here only can “When in Rome, Do as Romans Do”. And about Mt Everest, I have found some chinese who say it’s between two countries and symbolizes our friendship. To my limited knowledge, it’s true also. When we look into the map, it lies in the border, therefore sourthern part is of nepal and northern part is of Tibet(China). I don’t know exactly the history and politics on Everest. But there are other chinese who say it lies in China and belongs to them, with those no way to discuss.

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  • ** Mt Everest, Chomolungma or Sagarmatha ? **

    Mt Everest was the name given by British after they found the highest peak while they were conducting land Survey in India. At that time they did not know it had a local name for this majestic peak. It was also wrong for BP Koirala to name this peak as Sagarmatha when shoud have consulted the local people. The local ethnic people Sherpas and Bhutias who are living ages on the base of this peak still call it Chomolungma. The correct name should be “CHOMOLUNGMA” and it must be brought to world stage and replace Mt Everest by its original name.

    The peak is divided into two countries and we can not change it now but every time we say, we must say the peak is divided between Nepal and Tibet. Tibet was invaded by Chinese communist in 1959 and annexed it into China’s territory. We should not accept this at any cost. Let Tibetians have their rights to make this country free from Chinese dominance. One day Tibetians will get freedom back. Freedom to Tibet.

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  • karnabahadurbk

    bharat le lumbini bharatma parchha gautam budhha hamro ho bhane jasto bhayo.kinaki nepalka shasak gatilo nabhayera ho hai?janmeko

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  • सागर नेपाली, संयुक्त राज्य अमेरीका

    मैले नेपाल चिन्ने चाईनीज देखेको छैन र नेपाल नचीन्ने भारतीय देखेको छैन। यसै बाट थाहा हुन्छ त्यो भोटेहरुको (भोट लाई जबर्जस्ती आफुमा गाभ्ने) ज्ञान कती संकुचीत छ भनेर। नेपाल, उनीहरुको सांध जोडीएको छीमेकी, लाई लाई पाठ्य पुस्तकमा नहाल्नु वा नचीनाउनु, या त चीनको नेपाललाई पनी भोट (तिब्बत) जस्तै आफुमा गाभ्ने षडयन्त्र हो या नेपाललाई भुसुना सरह नगन्ने नीती हो।
    अप्रजातान्त्रीक चाईना कुनै पनी हालतमा प्रजातान्त्रीक भारत संग दांज्न सकीन्न। चीनले तिब्बत १९५९ मा अतिक्रमण गरेर लिएको हो भने भारत ले सिक्किम १९७५ मा जनमत सङग्रह गरेर लिएको हो।
    म त अतिक्रमणकारीहरु बाट डराउछु।
    रह्यो कुरा महेन्द्र को, त्यो कती पतीत मान्छे हो भन्ने उस्ले स्थापना गरेको “पञ्चायती” ब्यबस्था बाट थाहा हुन्छ। जस्तो छोरो तेस्तै बाउ, उस्ले आफुले शक्ती हतीयाउन आफ्नो दाईलाई काट्ने (उस्को दाई थीएन र मात्रै) वा श्रीमती लाई बेच्ने जे पनि गर्न सक्थ्यो, सगरमाथाको त के कुरा भो र।

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  • Nepali janata

    Friends,

    I found the following on the web regarding the naming of Everest which, I find, is of interest in the context of the topic here:

    http://www.geocities.com/TheTropics/1814/nep_polem2.html

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    Subject(s): Mt.Everest belongs to Nepal?
    Keywords: Polemic, Culture & Religion

    From: Gopal Dongol

    Date: 97.01.01 (Id.: 129)

    This is a very interesting topic to discuss. While in the University I happened to talk to a friend about Mt.Everest. I told him it belongs to Nepal. To my surprise my another friend from mainland China interupted and told me that it belongs to China. Then we started discussing about the border problems that existed before China took over Tibet etc. etc. From the primary school we have been taught that Mt. Everest belongs to Nepal. Similarly my chinese friend was also taught in the school that it belongs to China. Now who is right?

    Before China took over Tibet Nepal never had to worry about the border problem. It was almost like a “no man’s land” kind of hostile territory with very few scattered settlements and pastureland in the high altitudinale valleys. It was a open border between Tibet and Nepal. The actual demarcation line never existed. Later on after China took over Tibet, Nepal had a very hard time in settling the border dispute and one of the area was Mt. Everest.

    Later on I found out that the actual demarcation line now agreed upon by Nepal and China passes through the top of Everest which means top of Everest belongs to Nepal and China as it is the point of demarcation line.This means China doesn’t need nepalese permission to climb Mt.Everest from Tibetside. Likewise Nepal doesn’t need chinese permission to climb Mt.Everest from Nepal side. Is this the fact? Does anybody have a better idea how the demarcation line goes?
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    Subject(s): Mt.Everest belongs to Nepal?
    Keywords: Polemic, Culture & Religion

    From: Chitra Tiwari

    Date: 97.01.02 (Id.: 130)

    Mt. Everest belongs to Nepal. There is no doubt about it. Your Chinese friend is wrong. The problem of Mt. Everest controversy was solved in 1960 during the Prime MInistership of B.P. Koirala in Nepal.

    Mt. Everest was disputed by China during the state visit of Chinese Premier Zhou En-Lai in 1960. B.P. disagreed. Zhou tried to outmanoever B.P. by asking that if it belongs to Nepal it must have its own name suggesting that in China it is called Chomolongma(in Tibetan). It was a very shrewed question, indeed, because Nepal had no name of its own in Nepali. Somehow, B.P. advisor’s came up with the name “Sagarmatha” and quieted the Chinese. Zhou En-Lai then proposed to settle this controversy by going through the historical records of expeditions. The records showed that the climbers had taken permission from Nepal while climbing from the southern side and from Tibet while climbing from the northern side. As the top of the Everest is bent towards Nepal it was decided that southern slope and the top belonged to Nepal while the northern slope belonged to China (Tibet).

    I hope this helps to understand the controversy.

    Chitra Tiwari

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    Subject(s): Mt.Everest belongs to Nepal?
    Keywords: Polemic, Culture & Religion

    From: Angtam

    Date: 97.01.02 (Id.: 131)

    Very interesting.

    First of all, you say to Gopal Dongol that “Your Chinese friend is wrong” and then go on to say that the northern slope belonged to China (Tibet).

    Clarify what he is wrong at. Does China still need a permissions from Nepal to climb Chomolungma from the northern slope?

    Indeed, it was very smart of Zhou to have asked this “shrewd question” as you mentioned. However, in my reading, those advisers in the Nepali side do not get high marks. It is not surprising that the advisers accompanying BP did not know what the people living in the Himalayan range actually called the Everest. It is called Chomolungma for years perhaps since the time they saw the snow piled up on the top.

    Your saying “because Nepal had no name of its own in Nepali” is not only full of prejudices but also shows perciptible ignorance about the ethnic groups living in and around the Chomolungma region. May I ask, sir, which Nepal are you referring to when you say “Nepal had no name of its own…”? Had there been anyone in the group of advisers belonging to an ethnic group near and dear to the Chomolungma, or if the advisers had cared to consult the locals, this situation would not have arisen.

    We should not allow a situation where a politician or an armchair diplomat/bureaucrat during a talk could not tell you a Nepali name (yet to be defined) for a hilltop or a village, say in Mustang or Dolpo, which he will take as a right to (re)name it to claim it. Ask the locals if you are so damn ignorant about it.

    FYI, Chomolungma, a beautiful name, indeed,which is very much embodied into the daily life of people living in that range. It is in their daily worship, happiness, hardship, aspirations and above all an eternal source of inspirations.

    Tashi delek!

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    Subject(s): Mt.Everest belongs to Nepal?
    Keywords: Polemic, Culture & Religion

    From: Shaligram Pokharel

    Date: 97.01.02 (Id.: 132)

    Dear Mr. Dongol,

    To make it short,

    Yes, it belonged to Nepal. but not anymore.

    I think this is the condition,

    King Mahendra, as a condition of supporting the Panchayati regime, signed a friendship treaty with China. That time Tibet was already in China. Then we revised the boarder in late seventees. China gave ‘generously’ some part of land which now falls mainly in Karnali and Dhaulagiri zone. And to return this generosity, Nepal also gave some portion of land, ‘which was not accessible for administration from Nepalese side’. Most of the land were given in the eastern sector. With this arragement, the teritorry was increased to 147 thousand square kilometers from 141,000. But the point is, when Nepal gave the land, it gave the other half of Mt. Everest. Now, Chinese say, Chomolongma is in China and we say Sagarmatha is in Nepal. Both are right, but Mount Everest is divided. I am sure you will get my point here. China does not say Sagarmatha is in China. The only good part on Nepal side is, since it was discovered from the Nepalese side and is more accessible from Nepalese side, it is more popular as the Nepalese peak in the whole world.

    Never mind, our politicians have sold Kanchanjunga too, after Sikkim’s accession to India.

    This is my understanding anyway.

    Yours truly

    shaligram

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  • Bishal

    Yes … Buddha was born in India (in most of the world fact books and lots of indians believe that) and EVEREST belongs to China … What else is left of Nepal. What leads to these misinformation. How can we change it. But seriously they need to be changed.

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  • Jillabashi

    Big fish eat small fish.

    Similiar stories from another big fish- India as well:
    Indians text books say that Gautam Buddha was born in India!

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  • Mujot Hang

    Thikai ho Sagarmatha China ko ho Buddha janmiyeko bharatma ho Nepal ta samanti tanasaha haruko matraho.

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  • deb

    चईनिज हरु त जनाबर हुन के गर्नु अरुकुराले धेरै मथि भयको हुनले हो नत्र…. सगरमाथा नेपलको हो भगमान यक
    नेता जन्मियोस नेपलमा जस्ले सगर्माथा नेपाल्को हन्द्रेद % बनाउन सकोस र नेपल लाइ कर तिरेर मात्रै परेतक सगर्माथा चदन पाउन

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  • umeshji,
    aphno astitwa lutieko sahera basnu jyadai pidadayi hunchha .yo sagarmatha china ko bhanne bishaya le man jyadai bharlang paryo.nepal ka neta bhanauda harule aphuharulai nepali hau bhannu bhanda gadhar hau bhannu besha hunchha. unuharu desh ko astitwa ko lagi kehi pani sochne chhainan.
    niji phaida hune bhae yiharu aphnai amalai pani arkale lageko herera baschhan .

    je hos deshko maya garne ra aphno astitwa pyaro hune sabaile yashkuralai gambhira bhaera sochnu parchha.

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  • ZZ

    मेरो पहिलो चाइनिज साथिसित नै मेरो यो बिषयमा माथापच्चि पर्याथ्यो । उसले त नेपाल भन्ने देश नै छैन भनेर मलाइ शुरुमै १०० डिग्रिमा पुर्याइदियो । म भन्थे नेपाल चीनको दक्षिणमा छ । (हाम्रो सोझो हिसाबले त त्यहि हो नि, नेपालको उत्तरमा चीन, चीनको दक्षिणमा नेपाल) तर होइन रहेछ, चीनियाहरुले नेपाललाइ पश्चिमतिर छ भनेर भन्दो रहेछ । देशको नाम पनि हामिले नै नबुझ्ने गरी निफहर हो कि के यस्तै गरेर जिब्रो नै बटारेर भन्नि, अनि त कुरै नमिल्नि । फेरी कुरा गर्दा पनि औला चलाएर अक्षर कोर्दै कुरा गर्नि, कठीन पो छ त, औलाको भाषा हेर्यो कुरो नबुझिने, कुरो सुन्यो औलाले ध्यान तान्ने । पछि नक्सा तेर्साएर कुरो गरेपछि बल्ल बुझियो गाँठि कुरो। उनिहरु पनि सगरमाथा नेपालको हो भन्दा उस्तै छक्क पर्ने जस्तो हामी पर्छौ । फेरी चाइनिजहरु जातैले अति जिद्दि, घमण्डि र छुच्चो हुनि, तिनलाइ नेपाली पाराले कन्भिन्स गरम्ला भनेर सोच्नु नै बेकार । जिद्दि गर्ने मामिलामा तिनलाइ कसैले जित्न सक्तैन । पहिला मलाइ ईण्डियन भनेपछि मनै पर्दैनथ्यो धुर्त हुन्छन जस्तो लाग्थ्यो तर जब देखि चाइनिजको संगत गरे, ओ हो ती त ईण्डियन भन्दा कहाँ हो कहाँ खत्तम हुँदा रैछन । इण्डियनले त कमसेकम कुरो सुन्छ तर चाइनिजले जिद्दि गर्न थालेपछि कुरो पनि सुन्दैन । त्यसमाथि जनसंख्या र आर्थिक बिकासले तिनले संसार खान लागिसके, अब ती संग कसरी सगरमाथा फिर्ता ल्याउन सकिएला र खै ।

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  • yokoho

    होइन यो हाम्रो राम्रो सगरमा था, यो हाम्रो हो कोल्ले भन्छ यो चाइनाको

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  • Thuldai

    Actually it was PM BP Koirala who agreed that Everest lies on the border with China in 1960 in his visit to China.In his Agreement with Mao, he said that it was a symbol friendhip between the great people of Nepal and even greater people of democratic People’s Republic China.We should read the history first and then blame someone. I am not defending King Mahendra here but now a days, if someone fails down from the bi-cycle also, it is the fault of Monarchy.

    By the way have you read the statement of Maoists KB Mahara on the execution of Saddam ? I laughed continuously for half an hour.Maoists were talking about human rights!!!!! Which human rights they are talking about ? Human rights of killing 13000 Nepalese by third degree methods and more gruesome than Saddam’s hanging.Only difference is that Saddam’s hanging was guided by Americans.

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  • pham

    This topic is absolutely right. Last month i google it to find out about everest. I didn’t see any article saying it lies in nepal. Most article said it is in the border between Nepal and China. Wikipedia says the tip of the everest lies on china. I watched the pictures from google earth. It is hard to say which side it belongs.I am no surprised that 99% of world believe in everest lies in china.It is because of china’s global super power and some stupid politicians back in Nepal. Hey don’t worry. Nepalese are world renowed for protesting and vandalising. They protest 365 days out of 365. Why not we send those mass of protester to UN headquarte and Beijing? I tell you what that will be suicidal because the protesters will hide in US for better livings. I don’t know what to do.

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  • No name

    There is a famous song in China explaining that sagarmatha belongs to China. The song goes like this:

    Women dou you yi ge jia Mingzi jiao zhongguo
    (We all have one home. The name is China)
    Xiongdi jie mei dou hen duo jingse ye bucuo
    (We have a lot of brothers and sisters, the scenary is also very good)
    HAI YOU ZHUMULAMA FENG………
    (Again, we have Mt. Everest…. )

    I had a hot discussion with some chinese people and chinese professors regarding this matter. You can convince some chinense, but it is impossible to convince the ocean of chinese people and rest world. This matter should be solved in diplomatic way.. But, is there any bold NETA in Nepal to raise this issue?

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  • चिनियाँ पाठ्यपुस्तकहरुमा सगरमाथा चीनको भनेर उल्लेख गरेको कुरा मैले थाहा पाए अनुसार सहि हो | कुनै पनि चिनियाँ कक्षा साथीहरुले मलाई सगरमाथा नेपालको भनेर भन्दैनन | उनिहरु केबल भन्छन सगरमाथाको मुन्तिर सानो नेपाल (चिनियाँ भाषामा “निपोअर”) भन्ने देश छ | नत हाम्रो नै देशमा यो चिन र नेपालको सिमामा पर्छ भनेर पढ्छौ नै |
    अर्कोतिर सगरमाथा नामबाट हामीले फाइदा उठाउन नसक्नु हाम्रो कम्जोरी हो | जहाँसम्म राजाले बेचेको कुरा छ, त्यो त मैले बल्ल पहिलो चोटि सुने | सन्धिलाई सम्झौता भनेर ढाट्नेहरु अझै लोकतन्त्रका नायक बन्दैछन |..

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  • Ramesh Khanal, Lausanne

    Who is this Anuradha? Is she Anuradha Poudel from Paris?
    She has raised a good issue but she has not given any historical citations.
    We should ask with China diplomatically about the ownership of Mount Everest.

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  • dkhadka

    I totally agree with RAM & MADAN. Yes you are right Madan, no one cares about national dignity. Mao”s son fought 12 years for so-called leberty, equallism and maoism but at last came to the democratic mainstream. They were (still are)such a radical that caused 12K innocent”s death but did you hear that during their so-called “Jan Kranti” they fought for boarder dispute with Indian. They killed hundrends of people just near where Indian govt. took Nepali Bhumi but even they did not say a “Mouse Noise”.

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  • Casanova

    अनुराधा,
    अब मरेको बाघको जुँगा उखेलेर के गर्ने? महेन्द्रले सगरमाथाको पाटो china लाई सुम्पन्दा तिम्रो (मेरो पनि)हजुरबाउहरु के लाटोले केरा हेरेर बसेका त, बिद्रोह नगरेर? बेकार अहिले नातिनातिनिलाई मात्र टाउको दुख्ने|
    त्यहि उत्तरी पाटो पनि china लाई नटक्र्याएको भए आज chinese मा यस blog मा discussion हुन्थ्यो होला| तिमी chinese मा लेख्थियौ अनि हामी chinese मा बुज्थौँ|हाम्रो chinese Everest को नयाँ height को बिश्वसामु advocate गर्थौ|

    दुर्भाग्य, दुई ठूला ढुङाबिचको कच्याककुचुक्क परेको तरुलभित्रको पीडा कसले बुझ्ने?

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  • Ram

    we donot have leader like BP Koiräla now?

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  • madan

    अनुराधा जि
    बिस्तारै नेपाल ईन्डिया को हुँदै छ भने सगरमाथा चाइना को भयो त के अस्चारय हुनु ।चिन को ध्यान ताईवान्,सिङपुर्,मङोलिआ तिर छ र मात्र हो ।नत्र उल्ले पनि यता आँखा गड्थ्यो ।
    हिजो राजा सुरा र सुन्दरी मा मस्त्,नेता हरु घुस् खान मस्त्,विद्यार्थी तोड्,फोड मा व्यासत्,कर्मचारी कहिले जाला घाम्,पत्रकार लाई पोइल गा को समाचार लेख्दै ठीक,तरुनी हरु मिस्स् नेपाल को तयारीमा,बुढी हरुलाई आर्का को कुरा काट्दै ठीक्क,केटा केटी हरु पापा मा मस्त्,उमेश्जी माइ संसार मा ब्यस्त ।अनी कस्ले सोच्ने सगरमाथा को बारेमा??

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  • यो देशका नेताहरू नेपालै हाम्रो प्रान्त हो भन्यो कसैले भने पनि चुप लागेर बस्ने खालका छन्। सगरमाथा के हो र?

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