एमाले र काँग्रेसले विरोध गरिरहे पनि अन्ततः एमाले कै जलस्रोत मन्त्री रहेको माओवादीको सरकारले २ सय मेगावाटको डिजेलबाट बल्ने बत्ती (तापीय उर्जा प्लान्ट) बनाउने निर्णय गरेको छ। लोडसेडिङको भयावह स्थिति रहेकोले तत्कालका लागि यो विकल्प लागू नगरी नहुने सरकार पक्षको भनाई रहेको छ। तर विपक्षीहरु यसमा माफियाले ठूलै रकमको कमिसनको चलखेल गरेको हुनसक्ने बताउँछन्। उनीहरुका अनुसार हालको भन्दा दोब्बर बढी लागत पर्ने यो योजनाको विद्युतले अन्ततः विद्युत प्राधिकरणलाई टाट पल्टाउन सक्छ। हाल डिजेलको भाउ अन्तर्राष्ट्रिय बजारमा केही घटे पनि अब तेल निर्यातक राष्ट्रहरुको बैठकले उत्पादन घटाउने निर्णय गर्यो भने भाउ पनि बढ्ने संभावना छ। अनि अरुको देशबाट ल्याउनु पर्ने डिजेल लिन पम्पमा त्यसै त लाइन लामो हुन्छ, बत्ती बाल्न डिजेल कहाँबाट ल्याउने भन्ने उनीहरुको प्रश्न हुन्छ।
तपाईँलाई चाहिँ १३ घण्टे लोडसेडिङको समस्या समाधानका लागि सरकारले ल्याएको डिजेल प्लान्टको विकल्प कस्तो लाग्यो ?
डिजेल प्लाण्ट को नाम मा कमिसन् को अर्को चाल् ……….
We all need electricity for the basic needs, and for that the short term solution can be diesel plant.Well no one can make sure that the percentages will not be distributed among those in the link but then what when have the general population got their share, so for now diesel plant is inevitable, for other companies to run.
Yeah and about the Emergency bill passed, who so ever wrote to put an additional tax on the inverters, you see earlier people started using water machines the same way inverters may and will be common if the electricity shortage always remains, so planners better think b4 coming up with non-sense solutions…..Instead why was not there suggestions for the government to try to supply that state of art solar panel battery chargers designed for individual houses, energy will be created and used for free.
Nepal ma politicians haru aaru ley yo garenan ra tyo garenan bhanchan ra aafno paal ma kasai ley kahi gardainan yahi nai ho bidambana. Nepal ma huna sakney bhanda thulo sapana dekhayera vote magyo ani tyahi lai barsau samma vote magney kachaura banauney bani cha neta haru ko.
Kati lekhnu neta haru ko barema sabai lai aabagat nai cha.Pahiley nai tini haru ley socheyka bhayo aaja yesto huney nai thiyena.
yo desko maya navayeka neta haru lai hami le des chalaun pathayeka le yesto vayeko ho.uniharulai kamisan ko khel ma nai fursat 6aina aab desko bikas kahile garnu.
we need electricity to combat this present poor situation but the government has to think twice before taking action on purchase of Diseal plant. there are more negative affects on these alternative enrgy.we have to analyse some important aspects if we go with this diseal plant energy.
On the financial ground,
we need huge capital amount to purchase these diseal plant with no residual value (i.e. zero value) at the end because no one can buy this plant within the country due to huge plant and large capacity.
After use, the government can not maintain the plant in condition while not in use.obeviously, there will be no valuse of the plant at the end.
the Plant need diseal in a large amount on a daily basis in an expensive cost. we have no resource of diseal in the country and will be facing always short supply of it.
Diseal and Plant are purchased from foreign contries it means we need large amount of foreign money ($ or IRs.), we don’t have enough foreign money so we have to buy it for extra cost.
On the environmental,
the huge plant (200 MW) produce certainly noise polution to the public due to its heavy equipment plant. and diseal itself produce Carbon-dioxide from the plant while operating.the polution from smoke may destroy local environment and affect green envirnment as a whole.
on the other grounds,
the project need big budget ( huge capital intensive) but seems no extra employment oppertunity create from it.
Every day people block the highways unnecessarly throughout the country so it will affect supply of fuel on time.
our fuel supplier indian oil corporation will certainly create problem due to non payment of debt amount in time.
Eventually, Why not think the other alternatives once such as;
* ask to indian government for purchase of electricity for short period
* repair and maintenance of existing power house and its plant which will certainly increase electrisity capasity utilisation
* Start new hydro power project as quick as possible, it can be done because the government has done so many feasibility study on it.
thanks
Disel ayat garda ko commission matrai nabhanu. Disel ta tharmal plant start nabhaya pani kinnu nai parcha. Tesai pani nepal ma sabai jaso motor disel batai chalchan. teso bhaya aba ke thela gada gudauna suru garne ta. Sabai kura ma negative hunu ta nirasabad ho sathi ho. Mahango huncha tara kehi samaya ka lagi ramrai hola ki bhanne pani sochu hai.
Lekhaka ji,
Political issue ma entry garda kehi politics ko gyan pani hunu parcha. Sayad tapai lai thaha nai hola ke ho priministerial system bhaneko. Yesto system ma priminister ko decission nai main huncha. UML ko mantri ra UML ko birod bhanne tapai ko tarka kutarka ho. Please kunai subject lai public ma laijada missleading nagaridinu hola. Tesle bitrisna matrai machhaucha. Lekhna paya bhandai ma samaj lai negative matrai kura dinu hunna if you are really want to contribute something to you society.
Aba raho tharmal plant thik ki bethik bhanne, it could be the temporary solution.Barkha lagne bela samma teso garu ani next year lai uttam bikalpa khoju bhanne naramro hunna hola.
Dear Nepalese of the world,
In this situation we all should be one and help nepal how to solve this power crisis instead of critisizing govt. or party or anybody.
Yo sabai kamisanko khel ho bhannema dubidha chhaina. Nepali janatale je-jasto bhayapani sahekai ho. Dissel Plant aayapachhi electricity ko bhau pani badhaune chal hunasakchha.
Tar euta kura sancho ho ki Thermal Power Plant ma kam garne karmacharile 3 mahina ma ghaderi kinchha ra, 5 mahinama ghar thadaunchha. Yo itihashle dhekhayako kura ho. Yash bishayama patrakar bandhuharule bisesh adhyana garne po ho ki?
This is a desperate move by the government equivalent to suicide. No doubt, diesel power plant is the only solution for the quick solution. But it is a solution which will make poor Nepal poorer.
It seems this that decision makers in the government have no idea how costly a diesel power plant will be. Machinery is more expensive, fuel too expensive, maintenance is more complicated and expensive if comparison is made with hydro power plant. Or there is some vested interest.
Now the questions:
1. How long will the proposed diesel power plant will take to start power generation? Our leaders are saying something around six months. I doubt even the blueprint will be ready within six months. Then procurement process may take several months and delivery of machinery will take another several months. Installation will take some more months. Commissioning will take at least a few weeks. My verdict on this issue:
Six months: Impossible even in dream
One year: Impossible
One and half year: May be possible if everything works like magic.
Two years: Possible but considering the Nepalese work attitude it is still doubtful.
2. Who will finance the project?
If the government is going to finance then how many percentage of the national budget is required? Is it appropriate for such a project which will probably lay idle after around four years? (Though it could still be on standby.)
3. What percentage of the existing diesel power plants capacity is in production? I guess it is less than 60%. Is there any move to improve the production to near full installed capacity?
4. Do we have enough skilled manpower to run such a large diesel power plant? It will be the largest power plant in Nepal before larger power plants are built.
5. Why the delay in repairing transmission line damaged by Kosi flood? It should the first priority as some power could be imported immediately from India.
6. If we go for Arun III (or another project) how long it will take to generate power? Can we tighten our belts until then instead of suicidal move of the diesel power plant? With some import from India, power saving schemes, solar power etc. can we survive until then?
its just a game of corruption, trust me
सरकारको यो युक्ती एकदमै राम्रो छ । किनभने आर्थिक संकटले देश घेरिदै छ। एसो गरे पछी दिजेल बाट भन्सार बदी उठौन सकिन्छ र माओवादी कार्यकर्त भएको भन्सार चाडै सप्रनेछ । वइसियल र जनसेना लाई तलब खुवौन सक्नेछ + युथ फोर्स लाई पनि । बधाई छ सरकार यो काम गर्न ढिलो नगरौ । शुभ कार्यमा ढिलाई किन?
It seems the declaration of energy crisis and the plans proposed are based on the report of 2064/10/27 (last year) by a committee established by ministry of water resources. The report was prepared within 2-weeks and might have lacked broader view as I see no independent science-based institution or individuals involvement. Please read the report. According to the report, it recommended to implement the recommendations immediately, however, it had to wait for one year. If the reason is that the government was busy doing more detailed study, then it is a good excuse. However, during last year we had election, formation of govt, petroleum crisis etc, which might have delayed all this. The report can be found in
http://www.inforse.dk/asia/word_docs/Nepal-sust-energy-poverty.doc
A central research and information center should be established as soon as possible with the following things in mind:
1. consists of scientists, policy makers, consumers etc. (we need all stakeholders, but should be lead by scientists – for the sake of science)
2. to disseminate all kind of information and answer queries – all energy related. A functioning web-site. (so that when we write on blogs we get the facts and then people can do more brain storming than pointing out others mistakes)
3. to collect the data and ideas available locally, nationally and internationally (also from blogs like mysansar)
4. to device science based policies and develop effective implementation plan of the ideas.
5. Finally, to monitor the actual implementation and blowing the whistle whenever some wrong doings are found (commission etc…) — There should be a constant feedback mechanism
Well, others can edit this list and if someone out there who can bring this to the sight of the government or other capable institution, please do so. Otherwise, all we have written in this blog will go in vain. As I think all of us agree that if the concerned people are not reading this, we are just a fiction.
Saathi haru, my mind says the recent plan taken by goverment is absolutely wrong. This plan may only overcome the problem temporaly. There is no option to use natural engery sources such as wind, water etc. THough it is difficult and may take some more years, the goverment should still go for ways of using nature given powers.
Dear Editors/Journalists,
As a citizen of Nepal, I wanted to get a few information on some essential queries. Such is situation that I can’t read the decisions of the government or the cabinet or whosoever anywhere on the internet or public notice boards. I guess I am not entitled to the right of information. As journalists and media houses, you guys must have more access to information than we commoners have. Of course, this is not fair and just, but my point is not about right of information here. I wanted to know a few things about the recently declared “power crisis” and its legality etc. Please read on.
1. Please tell me: which law of Nepal allows the government to declare a state of power crisis? Or is this provision not stated anywhere in any law? And as is evident from the cabinet decision, does power crisis mean that the government has excessive rights to control and decide about power issues ? Exactly what extra liberties does the government gain during state of power crisis ?
2. Another thing: if such a law exists, what is the provision of implementing a “state of power crisis”? Doesn’t such a decision have to be passed/endorsed by the parliament? I smell a lot of foul play, chances of corruption and harm for country (being done officially and legally) in the name of “power crisis.” Please, if somebody knows about the laws of Nepal, tell me about these things. We should move it to the court if this decision of the government is illegal or needs to be passed by the parliament.
3. One last thing: During the last week, what specific cause (failure of a power plant, increase in demand, etc) increased the load shedding duration from 10 hours to 13 hours? Do I have the right to know? Or is it just a conspiracy to make the nation believe that the situation is very dangerous and it can’t be solved without declaring “power crisis” or bringing to use the thermal generators.
Thanks,
Bibek
This is the beginning of so called “New Nepal” and probably in next few years, genocide will be the best gift for Nepali people. There is no country in the world where called New before the name of country after revolution.
Some stuffs of fascinating words(CHHALANG, AGRAGAMI FADAKO, VYAGUTAKO GATI MA ARTHKI BRIDDHI, 1950 KO DESH GHATI SANDHI KHAREJ, SWADESH MA ROJGAAR, DASH BARSHA MA SINGAPOOR, $10000 PER CAPITA INCOME)does not mean New Nepal.It sounds in story and mass lecture to the stupid audiences who always clapping hands in the name of KRANTIKARI PAN. Those who are neutral and are not involved are called royalist and discriminate against them.
Finally, what is different between Girija and Prachanda?
What is different between Gyane and Prachanda?
What is different between past and this government?
Time will prove that a massive genocide what so called janyuddha was/is wrong and derived by a bad motive just to adjust themselves as a Hero of Nepal and world which does not exist.
No ,matter we have electricity problems but try to bring peace and control Maosit, violent Madhesi Group and Communal group of hilly region and make sure no body will be killed in such a way.
We are ready to live without electricity but we want to live. Give the peace and take everything. We want to alive first and education, electricity, money is rest.
०१ कस्ले माओवादीकाम गर्न दियन सिसी गमलाको रिपोर्टर क्लबमा गयर भनिदिनु पर्यो ता कि जनताले पनि थाहा अनी जनताले नै त्यो तत्तो लाई खेद्ने छन माओवादी को साथ दिने छन हैन भने सधैं कुकुर तिहार आयझै १३ किलो किलो माला लयर मान समान् खान कसैले छेकेन ! नाच्न जाँन्दैन आगन तेदो !!
०२ एही चल्हो हो भने एनी हरु को निस्चित छ देस पनि बर्बाद बनाउछन आफु पनि भस्मसुर हुने छन त्यो दिन धेरै टाढा छैन ! हेर्नुन वाएसिलले जे गरे अनी छुत दिनु पर्ने रे !! जनता डब्लु डि (वाक्क दिक्क ) हुँदै गैरहेको कुरा ई छोर का बाउ चन्दाल लाई थाहा छैन भनेर कसरी पत्याउने ?
i think this kind of poject is not suitable for country like Nepal.cause it is one of the most expensive technology.other thing is it will make more fuel consumption,which is very hard to get it.we r all depend to india and we r having trouble to get enough for our vehicles. it is the most poluted method . so goverment should think about alternative energy rather then diesel plants.
१5/20 बर्ष आघी का भ्रस्ट साशक को अदुरदर्सि नितिले गर्दा यो आबस्ता आयो ४/५ बर्ष को आल्पकलिन को लागि भने पनि यो आति आबस्यक देखियो । बिरोध को लागि बिरोध गर्ने हो भने केहि छैन । बिरोध गर्ने ले पनि बिकल्प दिन सक्नु पर्छ । तेतिकै माफिया मफिया भन्ने हो भने ५/७ बर्ष आध्यारोम बस्छु भन्न सक्छु पर्छ। कुरा कस्तो लाग्यो?
In my opinion, they should install wind plant, and solar energy; people should be encouraged to use bio gas, and firewood. Day light saving technique should be applied. If country is ready to tolerate international pressure and has enough technology, Nepal should plan to install nuclear plant in next 10 years.
“bhikhari lai sun ko kamandlo”
What a shame?
Nepal ia second most resourceful country in the world with hydropower, but look at those punks: they want to build Disel power station so then why not build Nuclear Power Station.
No hope from anybody at all.
BULLSHEET PLAN.
IF THIS SO CALLED GOVERNMENT HAS GUTS, THEY SHOULD WORK TO MANAGE OUR OWN RESOURCES.
ITS JUST A CHEAP PUBLICITY FOR COMMISSION,
MARNI BELA MA HARIYO KAKARO, jun des ko diesel khani nai chhai na to desma siesel bata electricity nikal ne? Haaaa….gajab ko kura chha…..yo ohighata ko plant ho…hey des hagchhu bhane haru ho nepal ko nadi nala le sarap la hai….?afno des ma bhahe ko ghundruk na khahe ra bidesi shrimp chahine……?
हरे शिब, के दिन आयो! जलस्रोतको दोस्रो धनि देश भनेर पठेको पनि खेरै गयो। आफ्नै देशमा भएको जलस्रोतको उपयोग गरेर बिधुत निकाल्न नसक्ने हुतिहार भ्रष्ट्रचारीहरुले अरुमा आश्रित हुनु पर्ने तेल बाट बिधुत निकालेर समस्या साबधान गर्लान् भन्नेमा त म एक रति पनि बिश्बास गर्दिन।
पहिला कमिसनको खेल छ भनेर कुर्लदै हिड्ने माओबादीले त्यहि योजना लागु गर्न लाग्नुबाट थाहा हुन्छ कि, माओबादीले पनि सत्ताको गुलियो चाटीसक्यो र उसको केहि स्बार्थ पनि छ। अहिले सम्म गतिलो काम केहि गर्न सकेको छैन, “धर जलाएर आगो ताप्नु” भनेको जस्तो जनतालाई राहत दिने नाममा देश र जनताले धान्न नस्कने डिजेल प्लान्ट ल्याएर देशलाई डुबाउन खोज्दै छ।
मेरो भन्नुको आशय, डिजेल प्लानको भन्दा अरु कुनै बिकल्प खोजिनु पर्दथ्यो। त्यस्तै गरी बिधुतमा भएको चुहाबटलाई रोक्नु पर्दछ।
Ho ho Diesel thik chha- Commission wala
Diesel price will keep on rising even though it has been shortly corrected due to world financial woes. Nepal can not bear Diesel plant It will be SETO HATTI.
The major problem of nepalese hydropower is transmission lines, not the hydropower. Even if we construct the hydropower, how do we connect them to national transmission grid? I think even the private sector build some hydro powers, most of them are in rural areas where it takes more than 2-3 years to construct transmission links to connect them to national grid. Since, the government could not reconstruct the transmission links of damaged by Koshi, what do we expect? Will the govt able to construct those transmission links to remote areas where potential hydropowers could be built….
To
The Government Of Nepal
I like to suggest the following points to decrease electricity crisis.
1. Using Gas Available ( Mine ) In Ktm For Thermal Plants.
2. Using Coal For Thermal Plants , Probably In India.
3. Maintain The Destructed Tower As Soon As Possible in Koshi.
4. Strictly Removing Heater From Government Office.
5. Creating a New Scientific Load Shedding Hours, Industries At Night/Day and Houses at Peak Night Time.
Thank You..
If my above suggestion Failed Then Use Diesel Power Thermal Plant Too..
Government should finish mega projects in 2 yrs. The problem of electricity is acute in industries. So, instead of focusing in small hydropower or diesel plants, the government should focus on very ambitious projects 24 hrs a day 7 days a week. Private sector and community can focus in small hydropower.
बेठिक, २ , ३ बर्ष दु:ख गर्ने, पानी बत्ती नै निकाल्ने।
बकाइनो को दाना को डिजेल चै ठीक कि बेठिक ?
यो प्रबिधिले नेपाल बन्न २०शौ बर्ष लाग्छ नया नेपालको कुनै अनुभ नगरी जीबन बित्ने भयो ।नेपाल जलश्रोतमा
दोस्रो धनी देश बिश्वाकै लागि अमिट छाप रहेको छ तर बिधुत प्राधिकरणमा भने गरिब रहेको छ।यो जुन सुकै
नेपालीहरुको दुर्भाग्याको कुरा हो।नेपालमा ८३हजार मेघा वाड बिधुत छेमता नभएको हैन तर बैज्ञानिक प्राधिकरणमा
कमिछ र भौगोलिक कारन पनि तेतिकै समस्या बडेकोछ।
मान लामा हाल ईराक बाट
अन्तत: जलमाफियाहरु आफ्नो षड्यन्त्रमा सफल हुने छाँट देखिएको छ । दुर्भाग्य नै भन्नुपर्छ माओवादीले नेतृत्व गरेको सरकार यसको शिकार हुनपुगेको छ । एकातर्फ जलमाफियाहरु मालामाल हुने देखिन्छ भने बिरोधीहरुले माओवादीलाई अपजस लगाउने बाटो पनि खुलेको छ । वास्तवमा भन्ने हो भने अहिलेको लोड्शेडिङ थोरै बाध्यता तर धेरै कृत्रिम अभाव हो । यसबारे सरकारले ध्यान पुर्यान नसक्नुले सरकारको अदुर्दर्शिता झल्काएको छ । यस बिषयमा पत्रकारहरुको खो खोजबिन पनि जरुरी छ । कोठामा बसेर कुर्लन छाड्नूस पत्रकार साथीहरु, बाहिर पनि निस्कनुस् र यसबारेमा अध्ययन गर्नूस ।
अन्त्यमा, जेसुकै होस् यो डिजल बत्ती कुनै पनि दृष्टिकोणले ठीक छैन । यसको आयोजना छिट्टै सम्पन्न हुने भएकाले यसको महत्व देखिएको मात्र हो, अन्यथा यसको सन्चालन लागत अत्यन्तै बढी हुने र डिजलको आपूर्ती सहज नहुने हाम्रो देशमा यसको कुनै अर्थ छैन । अन्त्यमा यो असफलनै हुनेमा शंका नगरे हुन्छ ।
यो सबै कमिसन को खेल हो नत्र यो अबस्था आउछ भन्ने त बिध्धुत प्राधिकरण का मान्छे लाई त पक्कै थाहा हुनु पर्ने हो / कि तेती पनि आकलन गर्न सक्दैनन भोली कती बिजुली खपत हुन्छ र कती आपुर्ती गर्न सकिन्छ भन्ने ? कि उनी हरुले गरेर पनि नेता जि हरु को डिजेल प्लान्ट प्रती को मोह ले वास्ता नगरेका हुन। नत्र तेसो नभयेता शायद ठुला आयोजना सन्चालन गर्न लाई अलिक तदारुकत देखाउथे होलान नि त नेता जि हरु ले ? खै त्यता तिर कुरै उठेको छैन /
अब सुरु गरेको दिजेल प्लान्ट बन्न छ महिना लाग्छ तेतिन्जेल सम्म बर्खा लागि सक्छ अनी त्यो प्लान्ट खिया लागि सक्छ अर्को हिउद सम्म अनी मा फेरी मर्मत को कमिस्सन ? एक पछी अर्को मोज /अनी ३० रुपैया युनिट को बिजुली नयाँ नेपाल को जनता ले पाउने राहत ??????????????????????????????????????????????
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The Government Of Nepal..
I suggest government to use underlying free energy, free gas in ktm valley to run generator, there is a huge mine of bio gas in ktm valley , govt. can use it to generate energy.
Another alternate is to request Indian government and keep a coal generator inside India, coal powered generator is very cheap than diesel powered one..
Another things is to maintained the destructed power line in Koshi, to import electricity from India.
Another things , to strictly remove heater from government office.
Again, to maintain schedule proper scientific way so all industry can be operated in daytime and house can get energy at night time.
My Very Important Suggestion Is To Use Bio-Gas Which Is Available Freely Here In Kathmandu.
If everything i stated fails then use even diesel powered generator ,..
Thanks.
sabai headofice and central ofice lai out of valey like chitwan pokhara dharan gare and sana sana river bata light product gare easy slove huncha this problem. vaya jati sabai ktm ma daka chora dalal minister, jogi sabai ktm ktm kasari huncha this problem slove. afnu khuta ma stand hune kam nagarera aba phar petrol ma lagne yak din india le stop garyo vane yata na uta ke ko plan ho yesto hawa ko
I fully agree with Luna. Diesel is polluter and costly too. If we consider possible damages to our prestine environment, the diesel plant would be the worst alternative. I prefer import of electricity from neighbours India, China , Bangladesh or Bhutan as well. we should study the possibility.
you dont need to go mustang for wind energy we can have in ktm, bhaktapur, pokhara etc…. i checked in uk
1.जापान, अमेरिका, चाईना, भारत जस्ता अर्वौ जनता भएको देशमा कसरी बिद्युत आपूर्ति भएको छ त्यो बारेमा मलाई जानकारी भएन उनीहरुको जस्तै प्रबिधि नेपालमा पनि त्यही उपाय लगाए ठिक होला?
2.ग्रामिण लघु–जनबिद्युतलाई प्रोत्साहन दिदा उचित होला?
3.ग्रामिण क्षेत्रमा हुने बिद्युत खपतलाई कम गर्न सोलार बत्तीमा प्रोत्साहन दिदा उचित होला?
4.कम बिद्युत खपत हुने सि.एफ.एल.लाईटलाई प्रोत्साहन दिनु पर्यो सरकारले भन्सार छुटको व्यवस्था वा नेपालमै त्यस्तो चिमको उत्पादको प्रोत्साहन।
5. सरकारी कार्यालयहरुबाट हुने बिद्युत दुरुपयोग नियन्त्रण गर्न छुट्टै आयोग गठन गरिनु पर्यो?
6. ईन्भटर, चार्जर, यु.पि.एस., हिटर, एयर कण्डिसन, राईसकुर, कुलर जस्ता बढी बिद्युत खपत हुने उपकरणहरु प्रयोगमा कारण सहितको सरकारी स्वीकृती चाहिने व्यवस्था हुनु पर्यो?
7. बिद्युत चोरी हुने स्थानहरुमा ईन्सुलेटर वायरको व्यवस्था गरिनु पर्यो?
8. बिद्युत चोरलाई राष्ट्रिय अपराधी मानी कडा भन्दा कडा कारवाही गरिनु पर्यो।
9. बिद्युत महशुल भुक्तानी नगर्नेहरुलाई कालो सुचिमा राखी त्यस्तो ब्यक्ति, कालकारखाना, सरकारी निकायलाई सम्पूर्ण (चल/अचल सम्पत्ति)
jamma tin mahina ma sarkarko halat yasto chha no coopration even from foreign aba arko 3 mahina heru ta kurchi chhadera bhagchha sale jyan mara choor haru sabai
आमा को दूध चुसेर पुगेन, अब बा को घुडा चूसने ? कही नभाको जात्रा नेपालमा
We should now better think of nuclear power plants..
it’s ridiculus .it’s really worthless.so-called sarbahara ko government le sarbahara lai maatlab nerakhane plan kina implement gaena khojeko ho ba!!
one liter of diesel can produce 3 to 3.5 units of electricity. You compare the price. We should not forget that the price of oil at present is the lowest in recent months. It was more than $150p.b. few months back. If that circumstances prevail again, the government will be forced to withdraw their decision. Equipment is quite expensive so as its maintenance. Other fact is, it is not popular in present day because of pollution it creates.
As few people mentioned above, the govt. at first should study about alternatives and cost involve in it.Wind and solar energy can be the available alternatives in different places. They should invest for research and come to the decision rather than to take decision first and do research later. Why not these kinds of issue being discussed with people?
It is nothing other than a popular note of the govt. as in one hand they have created artificial shortage of electricity and in other showing that they do care people. All bull shit……..
sathi haru baru lumbini ra muktinath jau tya thermal plant banau tya baleko aago nibhaera natural gas bata genetor chalau ani bijuli nikalau tya bata 200 mega watt each aaucha so 400 megawatt bhayo total ani 18 hour hoina 18 min ko load shedding pani hudaina ani hydro electricity indian lai bechau hoina ra
k garne desh ko halat theek chaina j bhane pani bhai halyoni kasailae sunne hoina sunepani kehi hune hoina tesailae padau time pass garau manoranjan garau la aaba padna banda garnus load shedding dailo ma aayo computer banda hudai cha
दोब्बर
अब त्यो ‘डिजेल’ भनेर यहाँ त्यो पेट्रोल जस्तो प्रदार्थ लाई बुझाईएको हो ? त्यसो हो भने डिजेल को बत्ती ठीक होइन ।
पहिलो कुरा, डिजेल अत्यन्तै प्रदुसण उत्पादन गर्ने प्रदार्थ हो ।
बातावरण को लागि यो अत्यन्तै हानिकारक छ ।
त्यसैले पनि बिजुली बाल्ने कुरामा डिजेल लाई प्रयोग गर्नु माथि साथी बिद्रोही जि ले भन्नु भए झै ‘ बिनाश काले बिपरित बुद्दी ‘भने झै हुन जान्छ डिजेल को प्रयोग बातावरण को लागि ।
दोर्सो कुरा, माथि शिला जि ले भन्नु भए झै ‘आमाको दुध चुसेर पुगेन बाउको घुडा चुस ‘अर्थात डिजेल हाम्रो देश मा छैन ,यस्लाई बिदेश बाट निर्यात गरेर ल्याउनु पर्यो ।
यसै त डिजेल बिश्ब बजार मा अत्यन्तै मगङो छ भने हाम्रो जस्तो आर्थिक रुपमा धसिदै गएको नेपाल ले त्यसको भार उठाउनु भनेको जनतालाई कस्सेर लाताले पेट मा हिर्काउनु हो ।
अरु कुरा त माथि सबै साथीहरुले भनिसक्नु भएको छ यो डिजेल प्लान लामो समयको लागि हुनु हुँदैन भनेर । यस्मा मेरो पनि चर्को समर्थ्न छ ।
तर पनि कुरा के भने नि जब लामो समयको लागि हुनु हुँदैन यती महँगो प्रबिधी भने किन त्यही महँगो प्रबिधी मा लागाउनु पर्ने रकम सरकारले देश कै अन्य बैकल्पिक स्रोत मा लगानी नगरने ???
सौर्य उर्जा ,बायु उर्जा , बुट्यान उर्जा , अहिले आएर उज्यालो को मात्रै उर्जा बाट पनि बिद्युत निकाल्न सकिन्छ – यो प्रबिधी बेल्जियम मा शुरु भाईसकेको सुनेकी छु, साथइ थोरै मात्रामा किन नहोस् काठमान्दौ मा थुप्रिएको फोहोर बाट पनि उर्जा निकाल्न सकिन्छ । हाइड्रो पाबर त आफ्नै ठाउँ मा छ । हाइड्रो पाबर सम्बन्धी अत्यन्तै राम्रो जानकारी हाम्रा भू पु साम्सद कमा न सिह लामा जि लाई छ । सरकार ले बहा जस्ता ब्यक्तित्ब बाट सक्दो सहयोग लिना सक्नु पर्छ र त्यस्तो जानकारी भएका हरु लाई सहयोग दिएर काम पनि लिना सक्नु पर्छ ।
यि यस्ता अत्यन्त भर पर्दा बैकल्पिक उपाय हुँदा हुँदै त्यो मगङो उपाय अर्थात डिजेल मार्फत सरकार बत्ती आपुर्ती गर्न चाहन्छ !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
हाम्रो जस्तो आर्थिक रुपले धसिएको मुलुक ले दिर्घ कालिन उपाय पो सोच्नु पर्थियो ।
कताको छिट्तो र सजिलो उपाय मार्फत बातावरण लाई बलात्कार त गर्यो गर्यो अत्यधिक सन्ख्यामा गरीब – निम्न मध्यम – मध्यम बर्ग का परिवार भएको नेपाल का जनता को पेटमा पनि बेस्मरी कस्सेर लात बजारदै छ !
मर्नु भन्दा बहुलाउनु निको !
के गर्नु ता बिद्धुत प्राधिकरण लाई नोकसान त हुन्च नै , अनी तत्काल अर्को योजना बन्ने संभाबना पनी छैन
1. मुरी छोडेर मानो को खोजी
२, मेरो कम्मरको खुकुरी कुन हुस्सु ले चोर्यो ?
३, ताप्केको तातो सहन् गाह्रो भयो आगोमा हाम फाल्ने हो कि ?
४, नमच्चिने पिङ को सय झट्का
५, केटाकेटी आए गुलेली खेलाये, मटेङ्रा को नाश
साथीहरु हो ! यो माओबादी भनेको नेपालको लागि दैबिप्रकोप, अलछिन, दुर्भाग्य कलन्क, ब्लद क्यान्सर हो यिनीहरुबाट जनताहरुले कुनी ठुलो आसा पनि गरेका छैनन मात्र रुखो पिथो खायर एक्रात आफ्नै घरमा शान्ती सँग सुत्न पाइयोस भनेर भोट् दियका हुने नकी यी चोर्का बाउ चन्दालहरुले देश्र र जनतालाई चमत्कारीक बिकास गरलान भनेर !!
Something is better than nothing. But, it should be managed until we are self sufficient in electricity.
Electricity is the most important factor for the economic development of the country.As we all know Nepal is a rich country in water resources which has a capacity of 83000MW.Out of which net electricity capacity is about 44000 thousands.I think Nepal has only generated about 3000 MW from this resources.Why Government do not want to invest more money on hydro power sector?
Diesel plant is an alternative for hydro power and this is not the sustainable solution.We have to make a plan for the long term.
In economics,the economic of the country is multiplied by 1.13 time if its resources are spent locally.So in this case we have to export the diesel from foreign country and our resources are traded outside which is not the good economic policy.Where are the economic export of Nepal?Why they did not provide a suggestion to the government?
I have seen there is no one in Nepal who has a good development vision.It is better to invest in a sector where we have a control over.In this case we don’t have any control.It depend upon the international market.
All the plan of Nepal are in ad-hoc basic which has no value in the long run.It is just a waste of resources ,time.The development of Nepal is just to increase the voter list of the politicians.Nepali Politicians are like a sheep.they don’t have any vision,goal.They are just making a decision without any further study analysis .Foolish people……………..
Unless Nepal Adopt an integrated planning system approach for development and a good planning framework the development of the Nepal is impossible.The poor become more poorer and rich become more richer.But the record will show there is a reduction i the poverty.The reason is that the poor will die soon and the no will decrease.
Common economic export,hydro power experts those who are working in Nepal,give a right feedback to the government.Don’t think only about your pocket think about the country also ………………
probably solar or wind energy could be the best alternative. About the support form UML minister, you all know that UML always do the same things “alachonatmak samarthan” which ever the has and has two tongue in its mouth. Look at th case when petrolium price increase at the time of iswar pokherel, it did the same things. I can only say about UML is it does not has its own brain- it can hold only others tail.
i dont think its a good idea but if they are sure that they get sufficient diesel it can be considered bcoz present condition of nepal is very miserable.
diesel plant banaunu bhaneko neta lai posnu ra desh rajanatalai dubaune kaam matrai ho.
IT is not at all a wise idea to generate electricity from a DESEAL plant in a country which has no source of fossil fule in it. The running cost of it will be another burdern for a FAILING country like ours. More over ther are chances of misusing the costly electricity. Getting a tough hands towards the HYDRO source will be a good ideas as far as i think and reducing the electricity consumption where not needed is also another way of saving electricity. The citizens also have a responsibility toward their own country and if we all contibute as much as possible we can come out of this problem. So LET US NOT WASTE OUR ELECTRICITY and put pressure on the Government not to take any step without proper evaluation of the pros and cons.
यस बारेमा मेरो कमेन्ट पहिलेनै गरिसकेको छु साथीहरु ! फेरिपनि भन्छु “बिनाश काले बिपरित बुद्धी” ।
I think this is the best time to use diseal power. Because the price is also low and will be low for 2 or 3 years(of course it is not low comparing to the past but look at the future predictions) until which we might expect a major power hydro power plant to replace it. It will run for 240 days/year.
Don’t forget Saudi Arab has a 14000 MW oil fuelled CCGT power plant. If they can get 14000 MW from oil we can get some 200 MW from diseal.
Other alternatives
Wind power needs study, time and money.And I still doubt that it will make any significant difference to the net energy production in our country.
Solar (currently) doesn’t make alot of energy (unless there’s a breakthru in this technology), and it will be very expensive to build such power stations(the technology being applicable mostly in deserts while in the same time degrading its ecosystem)
IMHO all we can do is hope that the diseal price remains low for sometime until projects like Upper Tamakoshi(which will start its construction in mid June) finish being built.
Next I don’t think 10 GW in 10 years will be sufficient we should target atleast 40 GW in the next 10 years(because in the future when transport will need electrical energy, we’ll be in another crisis).
Other things :keep being friends with India, make many small scaled hydro powers in rural areas to keep them independent, have alot of hope.
लुटको धन उल्फाको श्राद्द,
एमालेले अरुण भगाएको अहिले नेपालीले लोडसेडिङ्ग भोग्नु परेको छ,
माओबादिले कुनै योजना पनि बन्न नदिने बाताबरणले मध्यमर्याङ्दी ३ बर्ष ढिला भयो,
४ अर्ब रुपिया जर्मनले खायो,
अब घर बालेर आगो ताप्ने कुरा जस्तै हो यो थर्मल प्लान्ट।
२ वटा रुख जोगाउनलाई विद्युत योजना बन्न नदिने बाताबरण बिद ( पेट्रो डलरको एड खाने हरु) ले उनिहरुका मालिक को तेल बिकाउन खुब मद्दत गरे।
अध्यारोमा रमाउने पार्टी वा नेताहरु जो अहिले सम्म अध्यरोमै बसेर अध्यारोकै राजनीति gardai आएका छन तिनिहरुलाई त बिजुली किन चाहियो र होइन भने सरकारले बिद्युत्त प्राधिकरणलाई अनुदन दिएर भए पनि जनतलाई छोटो समयको लागि बिद्युत्त प्रदान गर्नु पर्छ। तर त्यस भित्र कुनै कमिशन्को खेल भने हुनु हुँदैन करोबार तथा dealing transparent हुनु पर्छ । कांग्रेस र एमाले को ओली गुट त देश द्रोही हुन तिनिहरुलाई देश र जनताको के मतलब ।
अध्यारोमा रमाउने पार्टी वा नेताहरु जो अहिले सम्म अध्यरोमै बसेर अध्यारोकै राजनीति gardai आएका छन तिनिहरुलाई त बिजुली किन चाहियो र होइन भने सरकारले बिद्युत्त प्राधिकरणलाई अनुदन दिएर भए पनि जनतलाई छोटो समयको लागि बिद्युत्त प्रदान गर्नु पर्छ। तर त्यस भित्र कुनै कमिशन्को खेल भने हुनु हुँदैन करोबार तथा dealing transparent हुनु पर्छ । कांग्रेस र एमाले को ओली गुट त देश द्रोही हुन तिनिहरुलाई देश र जनताको के मतलब ।
Diesel power plant seemed to be the quick option for us to get some relief from load shedding which is escalating day by day.But installing diesel power plant will not be sufficient when our internal demand of electricity is increasing in such high rate and we have not any promising hydro projects now in pipelines with potential to stop the current load shedding. We have to focus equally in demand side management by applying energy efficiency measures like use of CFL lamps, stopping idle use of electricity. As around 80% of electricity demand is domestic or households demands, we all can also play some roles to reduce the energy consumption in our households which can lead to reduce load shedding in some extend.
In the situation like now, where there is large gaps between supply and demand, the diesel power plant so proposed by government will have important roles for longer periods of time in future. So it will be worthwhile to think how we can operate diesel plants with minimum operating cost. One promising and popular ways to reduce the generating cost of diesel power plant is to make hybrid with wind energy. Properly designed wind/diesel hybrid system in places with enough wind speed, can significantly replace the operation of diesel generators with wind turbines, which is available free of cost. There are enough windy valleys, mountains and river corridors in Nepal with availability of wind data as well. So government should work to analyze if there is any possibilities to operate wind diesel system or other hybrid system,instead of operating diesel generators in standalone mode.
As there is a saying ” something is better than nothing”. This may be the temporary solution of the current power shortfall crisis. As the concern of involving of corruption, all process should be dealt in very transperency manner.Thus, the government go ahead with his current plan.Kehi na kehi upay ta garnu paryo ni..shame on the nepalese leader and experts who are responsible for this current crisis and failed to prophesy of this situation.
Kura hoina kam garr k.
malai ta achamma lageko 6. sarkale garna lageko kam sahara deset ma khet banayer ropain ge6u bhanu hbannujastai ho thermal plant banaunu bhaneko. tara yes barema sarkarle garna lageko kam hami gari b nepal 7 nepali ko lagi bhalo 6aina jasto lag6a.
नेपालका तीन प्रमुख पार्टी, ने का , ए मा ले र माओवादी को जल स्रोत निती म जस्तो सामान्य मनिषले हेर्दा त तीन तिर फर्केको र पुर स्वार्थले भरियर्को देख्दछु भने यस क्षत्र का बिग्यले कती त्रुती देख्द हुन। नेताहरु ले शायद नेपालमा उनिहरुको नितिलाई बुझ्ने कोही छैन जस्तो गरेर कुर गर्दा भने अफु प्रती नै धिक्कार लाग्छ। मेरो विचारमा तत्कल्क लागि बिद्युत भारतबाट आयत र तीन देखी पाच बर्षमा सम्पन्न गर्ने गरी सरकारी अनुदान रहित सन तथा माझौला आयोजना हरुको सन्चालन हुन उचित लाग्छ।
Current power crisis is a result of past mismanagement and negligence from concerned authorities. Current government is also to blame as in the aftermath of Koshi flooding and low water volume in Kulekhani reservoir, this government failed to anticipate this crisis and failed to react in time. Why the damaged transmission lines are not repaired yet? Why the existing Diesel plants not working to their rated capacity? Why energy conservation and demand reduction measures were not initiated and implemented effectively? There are many captive diesel plants with industries, hotels and other organizations which have to be brought into operation. All these above measures will be equivalent to more than 120MW which will hugely reduce the load shedding. On the other hand, if government goes for short term solution as it has declared, this will burden the country and can bring economic disaster for the country in the long run. The business houses in collucion with certain NEA officials are responsible for government’s such foolish decision. This must be scapped and we must prevent looting of national wealth by certain business houses and corrupt politicians and beaurocrats.
Aba kamisan chahiyo.. kata bata paisa kamaune bhanera neta haru le naya naya bekub sceem lyaudai chhan.. yo bhanda baru ”solar’ ani ”air electricity” ko bikalpa sochnu ni.
WHERE IS THE UEARLY REVENUE OF 102BILLION NRs.PER YEAR FROM 12 YEARS YEAR OLD MAHAKALI TREATY THAT SHERE SIGNED WITH INDIA UML AND CONGRESS RATIFIED BY THE PARLIAMENT? LET’S NOT FORGET THAT 402 MW ARUN-III WOULD HAVE COME INTO PRODUCTION AND WE WOULD NOT HAVE FACED SUCH ACUTE HYDRO POWER SHORTAGE THESE DAYS. WHY PEOPLE ARE STILL BELEIVING ON THOSE ROTTEN PARTIES OF THE PAST? THAY THEY’LL DO SOMETHING EVEN AFTER SLAUGHTERING ALL DEVELOPMENT ACTIVITIES? IS DEMOCRCY FOR DEMOLISHMENT OR DEVELOPMENT?
आमा को दूध चुसेर पुगेन, अब बा को घुडा चूसने ?
khai k gardarahe6n herau na naya nepal ka sambahak haru ,iniharu le nai vanya hoina switzerland banauchhau vanne,
des ko lagi ramrai sochera ta plan garya holan ni
dr saap le
छोटो समय को लागि यो एउटा बिकल्प हुन सक्छ तर लामो समय को लागि भने एस्को भर पर्नु हुँदैन जस्तो लाग्छ मलाई । अर्को पक्ष के छ भने के सरकार ले यो तरिका ले बिजुलिको सबै माग पुर गर्न सक्छ र? जम्मा दुई सय मेगा वाट बत्ती ले त हात्ती को मुख म जीरा होल नि कि कसो? अन्तराष्ट्रिय बजार मा तेल को मुल्य तीन महिन अघिको जस्तो भयो भने कस्ले तिर्न सक्छ तेस पछी हुने डिजल बत्ती को महसुल? त्यो पक्ष पनि बिचार गर्नु राम्रो हुन्छ । तेसैले सरकारको लगानी सम्स्या को दिर्घकालिन समाधान तिर केन्द्रित हुनु पर्छ जतिसक्यो छिटो जलस्रोत बाट नै बत्ती निकाल्न तिर लग्नु पर्छ।
Thermal plant obviously is an expensive means of producing electricity but right now it looks like a obliged step of government. There are other means of producing electricity available like hydro, solar, wind in context of Nepal but most of them require certain time period. Right now Nepal is going through a scaring situation of load shedding and it is resulting slow down in the national economy, cutting many employment and ultimately it’s giving a bad message to the national/international investors who are interested to invest in different segments of market. In my view, installing Thermal Plant is a right decision of Government though it’s a unpopular or lets say true bitter. But It must be for only short run. ‘SHORT RUN’. Diesel is not our product and it must be stopped in certain period of time. Hydro, solar and wind these are our resources, I would like to say raw materials of our country. We must use these raw materials which will lead Nepal to a prosperous side.
Wind plant is much more better than disel plant. it is very expensive and not sure that there will be no game of curruption.
नेपालमा अहिलेको बिद्युत उत्पादन क्ष्यमता, आवस्यकता र नयाँ योजनाहरु हेर्दा त, यो एउटा मात्रै होइन अरु पनी डिजेल प्लान्ट थप्नुपर्ने देखिन्छ | बिद्युतको माग र आपुर्तिमा धेरैनै फरक छ र तत्काल्नै यो समस्याको समाधान, Hydro power electricity बाट होला भन्नु दिवास्वप्न मात्रै हो | long term न भये पनी short term को लागी यो बीकल्प अत्याओस्यक देखिन्छ र तत्काल यस्को बिकल्प पनी छैन | यो भन्दैमा , भबिस्यमा पनी यहिनै र यस्तै बीकल्प मात्रै खोज्नु र छन भन्ने चाँही होइन | आवस्यपनी , डिजेल प्लान्ट, आँफैमा अती महँगो लगानीहो , तर तेसो भन्दैमा अब के गर्ने त, महँगो छ भनेर जनतालाई अब १३ घण्टा बाट १८ घण्टा अन्धकारमा धकेल्ने ? अहिलेको बिद्युत आपुर्तिको आवश्यकता को स-हजताको लागी पनीयो अत्यावस्यक छ | अबयो बीकल्पलाई लीएर विपक्षीहरु “माफियाले ठूलै रकमको कमिसनको चलखेल गरेको हुनसक्ने” भनेर हल्ला गर्छन् भने, कमिसनको चलखेल कसरी हुदो रहेछ, कहाँ कहाँ बाट , कस्ले कस्ले गर्दो रहेछ, भन्दाफोर गरुन्नत, यो त झन राम्रो हुन्छ, कम्सेकम जनतालाई पनी थाहाहुने , कसरी कमिसनको चलखेल हुदो रहेछ भनेर अनी कमिसनखोर हरुपनी त अली झस्केलान्नी , बरु सत्ता पक्षको हरेक कामलाई, बीरोध गर्नु भन्दा, त्यो काममा हुन सक्ने यस्त कमिसनको खेल अनी भरस्टाचार आदिकुराहरुले खबर्दारी , बिपक्षी हरुले गरे त राम्रै हुन्थ्यो |
डिजेल को बत्ती को के कुरा मित्र हरु
के डिजेल चै सस्तो छ र नेपालमा ?
अब सबै भन्दा राम्रो नेपाल सरकार ले
नेपालमा नै पाइने सल्ला को रुख लाई
सम्रक्षण गरे हुन्छ बरु यो बिजुली डिजेल
मत्तितेल भन्दा त त्यही सल्ला को दियालो
र सल्ला को खोटो नै ठीक छ ,
कि कसो ?
Its good, must be for a short period.