राजावादीहरुले राजतन्त्र जिन्दावाद त भन्दा त कुटाइ भेटिरहेको बेलामा गणतान्त्रिक सभामा कसैले ‘गणतन्त्र मूर्दावाद’ भन्यो भने के होला ? अझ त्यसो भन्ने मान्छे माअोवादी नेता भयो भने झन् के होला ? केही हुन्न ! एक छिन हाँसो गुञ्जन्छ। हजुर, शनिबार वृहत् नेवाः गणतान्त्रिक सभामा यस्तै भयो। काँग्रेस, एमाले, माअोवादी, प्रजातान्त्रिक सबै सहभागी स्वशासनका लागि वृहत् नेवाः गणतान्त्रिक मोर्चाको कार्यक्रममा माअोवादी समर्थित नेवाः राष्ट्रिय मुक्ति मोर्चाका दीलिप महर्जनले सम्बोधन गर्दै हाड नभएको जिब्रो चिप्लिएर ‘अघि साथीले नै भनिसक्नुभएको छ, गणतन्त्र मूर्दावाद’ पो भन्न पुगे। सबै हाँसेपछि बल्ल उनले ‘ए, गणतन्त्र जिन्दावाद’ भनेर सच्याएका थिए।
नेपालभाषा बुझ्ने साथीहरुले उनको सम्बोधन सुन्न यहाँ क्लिक गर्नुस्।
डाउनलोड गर्न यहाँ राइट क्लिक गरी सेभ टार्गेट एज गर्नुस्।
जातीय स्वशासनले विखण्डन हैन, राष्ट्रिय एकतालाई मजबुत बनाउँछ
सभाका अर्का वक्ता थिए प्रेमशान्ति तुलाधर। उनको सम्बोधनका प्रमुख अंशको भावानुवाद यस प्रकार रहेको छ- हामीलाई निरंकुश राजतन्त्र चाहिएन। हामीलाई लोकतन्त्र र विकासका बाधक राजतन्त्र चाहिएन। हामीलाई संघीय गणतन्त्र चाहिएको छ जसमा आत्मनिर्णयको अधिकार र जातीय स्वशासनको बहाली हुनेछ। यो हाम्रोमात्र अवधारणा हैन, हामी जस्तै शोषित, पीडित सम्पूर्ण आदिवासी जनजातिहरुको आवाज हो। त्यहाँसम्म पुर्याउने बाटो संविधान सभा हो।
नेपाल बहुजातीय, बहुभाषिक देश हो तर यहाँ कुनै वर्ग विशेषले शासन गरी एक भाषा, एक धर्म र एक संस्कृतिलाई प्रोत्साहन दिने काम भयो। जसका कारण आदिवासी जनजातिहरुको भाषा र संस्कृति लोप हुने अवस्थामा पुग्यो। उनीहरु आफ्नै भूमिबाट पलायन भई विदेशमा जानु परिरहेको छ।
यहाँ प्रश्न उठ्छ- नेपाल जस्तो सानो देशमा किन जातीय स्वशासन भनी हल्ला गरिरहने ? यसले विखण्डन ल्याउँछ। एक जाति र अर्को जातिबीच झगडा बढ्छ। प्रतिगामी तत्त्वहरुले यसो भन्ने गर्छन्। तर जातीय स्वशासनले विखण्डन हैन, राष्ट्रिय एकतालाई मजबुत बनाउँछ। ग्लोबल भिलेजको अवधारणा आइरहेको बेला किन जातीय स्वशासन भनी कराइरहने भनी पनि भन्ने गरिन्छ। तर ग्लोबल भिलेज भन्दैमा कोही पनि आफ्नो पहिचान गुमाउन रुचाउँदैन।
नेपालभाषामा रहेको मूल सम्बोधन सुन्न यहाँ क्लिक गर्नुस्।
डाउनलोड गर्न यहाँ राइट क्लिक गरी सेभ टार्गेट एज गर्नुस्।
[नेवाः पासापिन्सं थ्व अडियो ब्लग न्यनेधुंका बचाहाकलं जुसां जिं न्यना धकाः कमेन्ट च्वयादिसँ। अथेहे जातीय स्वशासनया खँ हे न्यने मयःपिं बर्मूतयसं च्वयाहःगु कमेन्टयात नं उमिगु हे भाषं तर्कपूर्ण लिसः बियादिसँ। मखुसा थथे ब्लग च्वयाः तयेगु/ मतयेगुया छुं उपादेयता दइमखु]
Concerning the Newars, we are the most educated, most cultured and civilised people who have most income per capita. We are the most urbanised people. We are also one of the most driving force of the country. We are one of most organised people. You can compare our(Newar’s) social structure and organisations and institutions with any advanced country in the world. We Newars are divided into different family names according to professions that is very important for the society to function well. Shah dynasty’s most victims are the Newars because the most Newars live in urban areas that were built by the Newars themselves.The problem is that we Newars are under occupation. We want rid of this occupation and be free. As above mentioned, We Newars are the most educated, civilised……..most urbanised people..who have most per capita income in Nepal. We are capable of governing ourselves. We want just to get back our own state/nation that was existed before forceful occupation. We want is liberation as efter the II great war the most colonied power left and New nations were born. We the Newars have been/are a nation. There is nothing ties or connection with other ethnic groups when it comes to our social, culture funtions and language matters. we the Newars are as we are. You all other ethnic gorups have no right to decide what we want and what we should decide because you and we Newars are different fundamentally. The federalism with self decision making power is the best solution for the country like Nepal if you and we want to keep our beloved Nepal to exist forever.
You can not compete with me in my mother tongue nor I can do in your mother tongue. There must be communication language that must be no one’s mother tongue in order to be free and fair in school and federal governments. Let English be communication language between ethnic groups and federal governments in Nepal.
One more thing I want to mention here is about culture. We all Nepalese have different culture back groud according to ethnicity they belong to. We Newars have our own culture, tradition and costume etc what we usually do is you do not do and vice versa. So, please do have culture sensibity. You can not/are not allowed to criticise some one else’s culture, tradition and religion because you and me Newar are different basically/fundamentally. We Newars have created our own civilisation that have been praised by the world and do create your own civilisation. Please, do not hang on us the Newars as corrupted virus or cancer on. Long live Nepal, long live federalism with self determination and long live the Newars.
Mr.Vaidya,
Pls. don’t go after caste like Bhramins or whatever. In my understanding there are lots of levels within the Newars itself.I am afraid to mention this but so called supreme castes are there in Newar community as well.And these high caste Newars have been ruling over low caste from ages. Should one really overlook this fact of discrimination Chyame, Pode, Kusle, Kasain have been facing from thousands of years in Ktm “Khaldo”? Who are the supressers now? Who are the “Bramhins” within the Newars now? Aren’t the so called lower caste in Newars victimized by their own Bhramhinbadi higher caste Newars? So firstly ruleout the levels within the newar and then bore your mind for broader perspective.
So the point is, stop all these craps with casteism.The bottom line is, all Nepalese should be considered equal irrespective of their origin.
Prerana,
What do you say about the “Soshan” witin the Newar community?Are all so called lower caste Newars are as happy and privileged as you are?Pls don’t mix up caste and community together.Everyone is proud of their community but sadly in all communities the discrimination still prevails.
they don’t understand the definition of janjatis, its not caste its NATIONALITY. castes are shrestha, tamrakar, manandhar, shakya etc for newar. chamling, thulung, etc for rai. nembang, lawati, tumbapo, chemjong, etc for limbu. ghotane, lamichane, lama, for grg n more. but the people after bahunbad n hindubad r the real culprit for creating jaatpaat, n the worst victims r dalits, who r actually hindu n khas as themselves but wat a pity thier crap system of racial discrimination. we r rising for our rights only not indipendant nation like baisi or chaubise. like rebellion freind has written that ktm was better prior to shah dynasty’s infiltration, same was happeing in limbuwan, even after limbuwan annexed in modern nepal it had KIPAT system under which the area was rich. poor people had chances of getting fair treatment n opportunities to gain wealth. there were many other people of different ethnic backgrounds living happily. but after it was taken away, n bahunbad n hindubad got in everything is in turmoil, think again people why we r playing with fire before giving bulshits….
Ya Nepali daju bhai didi bahini haru, ke sanghiya ganatantrako bikalpa cchhaina ra nepalko bikashko laagi………
Yauta kura ma garchhau, ke Newar lai Jana jati bhanyo bhane tyo Jana Jaati bata Pratinidhitwa garne manchhe Podeko chhora/chhori hunchha ki, Udhyog pati Newa ko chhora chhori hunchha?
Tyastai Magar/Gurung bata Pratinidhitwa garne manchhe Gaunma halo jotne magar gurungko chhora chhori hunchha ki, UK/HK ko ID bhayako Army ko chhora chhori hunchha????????
Janajaati ko tarpha bata wakaalat garne manchhe le please answer and convince me…………and not only me sabai nepali daju bhai didi bahini lai mero kurako chitta bujhdo jawaf chaiyo.
Dear All,
I think most of the thing is being cleared by the comment of Mr. S.B.Shreshta and Rabi Vaidya. So, if you haven’t read that I request you to read that.
I saw one comment made by the so called ‘Kanchha’. He said what will Newars do if captial is lifted from Kathmandu? Well, Mr. Kachha, it is better if you are aware of this fact that PNS decided to make Kathmandu as a capital of Neapl because it was well developed before but after he came here it started to decline. And now also Newars from Kathmandu Valley are just asking for thier right not to make pressure to make capital as Kathamndu forever. But we will be more than happy if capital is lifted from Kathmandu. We just want our land and right. We love our place very much we dont want our place to be called as capital. You can shift it anywhere u want. But let the Janjatis, Madeshis, Dalits and other minirotiy groups have right in their own land. We know how to develop our place so we are fighting for your right so that we can develop our place and overall development for the country.
Dear Friends,
I think there is nothing wrong with federalism or self governance of any ethnic groups if it is in good faith. In terms of Newar in kathmandu, I think they have full right to be self governed by themselves.It is also very important to understand that Newar is not just a cast, ethnic group or a community but used to be a Newar Nation with 24 barna & 36 Jati.So it is very importnat to understand the differences between the cast,community and nation so far.If you go back to the history, it must be pretty clear to all that Newar was the only major victims of the Rana and Shaha regime who not only imposed curfew in kathamandu for 104 years but tortoured most of the time.I beleive this is the perfect time to restore own identity for Newars in Kathamandu otherwise next generation will never forgive us.
It is also my understanding that Nepal is mostly ruled by Bahun only since last few decades. They are in power everywhere in government and politics not because of they r most talented but because of their khurapat. If this trends continue, one day they will face serious problem like their ancestors had faced and forecfully moved from India.
Now time has come and every Janajati has to rethink and reunit to defeat with Bahunbad otherwise that they will never get freedom. Bahunbad is like a virus and it is evry where starting from Maoist ending to Rajabadi. Now whole Nepalese society is the victim of Bahunbad.We all Janajati has to fight against Bahunbad and only after that you can expect something good in Nepal. This is my humble request to all Janjati’s not to be a bharaute of Bahun.They donot bring any good thing to the society.There is nothing good in them. Bahunbad is just a pain of the society. If you think about the Nava Nepal, it is only possible with out Bahunbad.If we solve the problem of Bahunbad tyhen everything will be settle down by its own.
This is also good timing for Bahunbadi to surender and handover the power to Janajati otherwise you guys will face serious problems ahead.This is not a threat just a fiendly suggestion yo all parichit bahun
Let’s make Nepal free of Bahunbad. Sooner is better.
not only newar other are also demanding for state republic.. like kirant(rai,limbu&sunuwar). gurung .. magarat… madheshi.. so every ethnic group are supreessed by brahminbaad…. in Nepal everywhere there is brahminbaad.. coz state government is brahmin so they are ruling according their cast but not with other ethnic group… yasle kehi pani jatiya bikhandaan lyaudaina it is also model of china and USA .. tara kina thaya bikhandan vayena ta???? baru jhan jhan maajbuut hundai jandaichha..
china ma they have own state government like tibet is budhist state… henan, hainan and other province are han state, xinjiang is muslim state.. so they have own autonomous region.. tara khai ta bikhandaan aako… ???? jhaan majbuut hundai gahiraheko chha .. ahile china world ko superpower ma aaune sthiti vaisakeko chha ani ahile sara worldlai chakit banaudaichha everyway baata chahe economically hos ya chahe technologically hoss… or chahe sports ma hos everything they are coming in world super power…. tara yaha mandale harule vanejasto jatiya bikhandan khai????? ahaaa tyasto kehi dekhindaina… at first in china there is no any descrimation between racism and ethnic they all are equall…… no any diference..
even in US there are so many ethnic group .. according that there is so many state tara khai bikhandaan.. ?????
yaha saathi harule kura nabujheko huna sakchhaa… jatiya sanghiya ganatantra vaneko euta jaatle matra rajya garna paaaune hoina ni… only state is nominated as majority but people themeselves choose who will rule that state ….. it will be either chhetri bahun or rai limbu whoever can bee.. but state is nominated as majority…. it is really goood idea to rule state government coz we can rule it as equally… but now it is just ruled by bahun.. and supress alll other ethnic groupt making one cast ,one religion and one language ….this is also not accepted by human right law..
I found SB Shreshtha’s comment also quite interesting. There had been similar comments by Maoists leadership regarding the federalism (or sanghiya satta) and analogy of India. The most often overlooked fact is that there is no clear boundary where to draw the line. Most part of Nepal are not homogeneous settlement of one janajati or other. Even in Kathmandu where is the line to draw between Newar federal state and non-Newar state? Similarly, what to you do most of Terai where the migration has made migrant community outnumbering the native (e.g. Chitwan, Nawalparasi, Morang, just to name a few districts)? Why even so called educated people fall into this trap? Why cannot they think a little bit at national level?
SB Shrestha’s comment seems to imply that Indian states are simply made of some homogeneous ethnic groups. A little demographic study of the area which is now Uttar Pradesh should give them enough counter example of their analogy: it is made of area and demography far bigger than Nepal.
I hope that majority of people will not fall into the trap of division based on one factor or another.
i hate jatiya swoshan. what difference between TAMIL advocator of jatiya shasan? more ove AL QUEDA want one religion’s rule in world. keep in mind JAAT and religion are very near and always almost together.
Dear Umesh ji
Nepal ma newa sosasan ko lagi thulo sava vayeko padna ra sunna pauda derai khusi lagyo. ma afai nai sahavagi vayeko jaso mahasus vayo. tapai lai derai darai thanks. newa sosasan ko jasle birod gareko ho tyo nabugera greko jasto lagcha. bujne manche le kahilai virod gardaina. bistari bistari manche haru le bujdai ayeko chha. Umesh ji malai yesko birod garne haru lai ramro jawaf dina pan lagcha hernu na malai leknai aundaina vane. tapai le nai mero nam ma ramro sanga lekhi dinu na hai please.thanks prerana.
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Mr Kranti Kumar, Mr Chintit Nepali, Mr Mm, Mr Sri Kamal, Mr Nepali Bhawana ….
Ask yourself why the Maoist party with the bankrupt communist ideology has become so much popular in Nepal? I strongly hate a single party despotic rule of communism. But in Nepal, Maoists are able to address the repressive agendas of Nepali people. We have to understand that Nepal is a country with multi ethnic groups, multi languages, multi cultures etc.
238 years of Shah dynasty has ruined many of its cultures, languages, traditions in the country. They ran the country for the interest of a small ethnic group by establishing a single language, a single people and a single culture and they suppressed rights of other indigenous people. They created the privileged class of people who were enjoying out of state coffer while the rest were living in destitute. They are very popular for depriving rights of indigenous people. They basically neglected languages, cultures and traditions of indigenous people (Janjati) of Nepal.
In any democratic set up each and every indigenous groups has rights to advance its culture, language and tradition etc. This can be better achieved by having their own states whereby they can manage their own system. Take for example, a small country Switzerland similar to Nepal, which is divided into 4 states based on languages and cultures. This is the same story in Belgium, Netherlands etc. Even in India, states are divided based on languages and Cultures etc.
Among all the citizens, newars are the 2nd most benefited community after brahmins.They want to become no.1 now.Good spirit!let ’em try.After all rest are just the”khechaaj” for them.Newars really miss their “malla dynasty”.They want to travel back to 250 years and celebrate “bhoj” and ‘jatras” in an undistrubed manner.For them, the valley is the only world.No one even dare to peep into it.LEAVE THE NEWAR ALONE, REST MAY GO TO ELSEWHERE.
Dear Friends,
I am really amazed to find most of you pushing your pens without ever bothering to consider what lies behind this issue of “federalism.” Yeah, I agree with your sentiments that “casteism” hurts national sentiment and “casteism” should be absent in our national life. But “federalism” in my understanding is different from “casteism.” “Casteism” is a kind of social witchhunting where people from one particular caste try to look down upon people from another caste because of their preconcived notions of superiority of their own caste. And being conscious citizen of Nepal, I hope we all agree that this abhorable practice must never be in our social life.
What is casteism?
We all critisize present notion of federalism because it sounds like promoting casteism. A state created on the basis of caste gives us jittery feelings because we feel that such states would have no place for people belonging to other castes. And I must tell that this is a misconception perpetuated by Mandales and Monarchists and is presently thriving on fear psychosis of people. However, it is an undeniable fact of life that we have rampant casteism in our social lives.
For instance, I like to quote an example of Kathmandu University itself where VC Suresh Raj Sharma is shamelessly promoting and recruiting many people belonging to his caste and of course from amongst his relatives. We all know that Suresh Raj is making mockery of “Service Commission” by such blatant casteism but still we have never been able to pin him down on this issue. Similarly, if we look at political parties, we can see that leaderships in these political parties are usually filled up with people with either blood relation or with common tail with top leadership. In administration also, it is a common practice to favour people from one’s own district, village and community with higher priority to one’s own caste. SO,casteism has been part and parcel of our social, education, and national lives but still we never speak against these detestable practices because casteism is practiced stealthly,slyly and sureptitiously. Simply put, we never raise voice against casteism because it is HIDDEN, and UNSEEN.
On the other hand, we keep on attacking every body who openly favour state restructing and federalism and term “federalism” immediately as “casteism.” Because we feel that by advocacy of federalism these people and leaders are trying to divide the nation because of their greed for power. Right?
And this is where most of the friends are wrong. Yeah, it is true that by advocating federal state
restructuring, these people and leaders are clearly indicating that they want to have a voice in running the nation. And what’s wrong with that in an inclusive democracy?
How Kathmandu does not remain Nepal if CEO of Kathmandu valley is Newar? or
How Madhesh does not remain Nepal if CEO of Madhesh is a Madhise? or
How Limbuwan does not remain Nepal if CEO of Limbuwan is a Limbu?
If we can accept a Madhishe, or a Limbu or a Newar as a prime-minister of Nepal constitutionally, why can not we allow certain Madhise or Limbu or Newar to rule their own land? If we do not allow Adibashi and Janajaati to have limited autonomy in their areas, then we are negating their chances of administering the nation as minister, prime-minister and in other key positions also. So, we must look at present move for federalism as an assertion by so far ruled and so far discriminated people to have their say in New Nepal. And Definitely not at the cost of other castes and communities. So, let me go to another important question;
Will Caste Based Autonomy kill the chances of other castes and communities?
This is the main question the proponents of Caste based autonomy, state restructuring and federalism need to look at now. Because democracy means “an eqaulity of opportunity” and any individual who is on electoral list of Kathmandu,too, has an eqaul opportunity to be CEO of Kathmandu. And that opportunity will be there even if Kathmandu Valley is turned into Newar Autonomous region.
I am saying so based on our experiences with Indian caste/liguistic/ethnic federalism. For example, if you look at Tamilnadu, you can see that J.Jayalalita has become chief minister of that state for a number of occasions. Given her Brahmin caste, and given the foundation stone of Tamilnadu, she would have never got a chance to become Chief minister of Tamilnadu if “federalism” means “casteism.” Becuase, Dravidian politics in Tamilandu is based on anti-bahun, and anti-Hindi philosophy. However, by entering into fray she got the majority and anti-bahuns could never do anything. And what about Rajanikant in Tamilnadu? He is pure Maharastrian but still he holds sway over Tamils and can become Chief Minister of Tamilnadu if he enters into active politics. Similar examples can be found in other Indian states also. So, with multi-party system in place, every individual has a chance to thrive on such federal structure because it is the party politics which decides the fate of the individuals/state and not the other way round.
Will Caste Based federalism enhance nationalism?
Regarding this question also, if we look at Indian Experience, we can say that federalism would promote nationalism if it is based on tenents of Lokatantra or Democracy. Like India, there used to be USSR which was also a confederation of state belonging to different communities. After 1992, USSR collapsed because federalism there was based on communist militarism. With unfolding collapse of USSR, Indian intellectuals hotly debated whether India would also collapse or not. But, we can see where is USSR and where is India now.
This comparsion clearly shows that federalism would be viable only when it is based on notions of democracy and equal opportunity. Today, we can see many north Indians working in South India and many south Indians working in North India. With autonomy, people have their own identity and this has put a stop to unnecessary wranglings over one’s political rights. So, with political empowerment, Indians have now started working on economic empowerment and for that they have started to exchange skills and ideas quite openly. Had there been no such provision of identity and addressal of one’s cultural rights, chances are there that people have still complained of discrimination in each other’s state. Thus, we can see that despite their differences, Indians are working diligently to empower India.
And is there any separatist movement in India becuase of federal structure? No! Barring Jammu-Kashmir, we do not see any separatist movement in India. So, Indian experience is a pointer to the fact that federalism preserves and promotes nationalism.
At last, I must quote Amartya Sen who unequivocally stated that democracy is meaningless if there is no cultural freedom. And having Jatiya Swayatatta in Nepal is another facet of exercising cultural freedom in our national polity.
S.B.Shrestha
Asst. Prof.
Kathmandu University
(Presently, Tokyo University, Japan)
Binaasha kaale biparat buddhi. Why people donot ask decentrlaization of powers instead of jaatiyata. automatically at local level those who are in majority will rule by majority. Look afaganistan, Look in africa, Look in northeast of India, Look Bhutan? First in Newar also Pradhan and shrestha must equal those who are condired untoucahbles in newar community also. Do Newar leaders want big war or moderation..?
Pleae be careful and donot play cheap politics of division. jaatiya swayathatle Ekata balyo banauhcha. This is not not true.
Neapl was never a jaatiya rajya in past even before shah king and why now ? Sasto politics and dollar kheti Grane Nava bahunharu like Om Gurung and Krishna Bhattachan want that. What is meaning of Jaatiya swashashan? Be clear. No Zone is now pure. It seems self declared leaders of jaatiyata baad are playing condradictory role. In one hand they blame hbahunbaad and on the other they advocate Jatiyatabaad. See total contradiction of their saying.
becareful friends, Even bahise chaubise rajya were geographical one and not jaatiya rajya. You can see Regionalism effect by sadhbhawana party. No wonder united we remain nepali, divided we will be nowhere.
If this problem is not addressed by the ruling group in a proper way there will not be peace in NEW NEPAL. Above comment writer are still sufferd from Panchayat bhoot. They need to open their heart and find out who is becoming the barrier for unity. Destroing the jana jaati will not meet the sustainable peace. Nepal is not a unilingual and uni cultural country. We have proofs that they ruled Nepal for 238 years and it is still poor WHY ? Who pushed Nepal into the list of poorest level ? Why people are leaving own land to live with dignity in foreign land ? The people of Nepal must be addressed with inclusive term not by unilateral khas word. When we do not accept the rule of royals the janataa have right to choose own Govt. not by ruling group only. Bahun chhetri Newar is not an appropriate serial. This is how it was taught to you guys by panchayat education. there are bahuns and chetris within NEWARS but you can not find Newars in Baahuns. It is because the actual history was not taught by panchayat. Newar is not a single caste it is a nation where you find all kinds of human civilization they want to live with dignity in high himalayas. I suggest to do some research on histoty of nepal not just reading the history books written by hitorians in favour of panchayat raj. Lok Seva Ayog demoralized the importance of degree earned by studying the centuries old language and litereature of NEPAL. In the name of ekata the treasure of Nepal have been distroyed and got promotion to khas bhasha and parampara if you are in favour of Democracy we must speak for equality to all guranteed by the constitution. The time is coming to an end to Khas baadi jabarjasti panaa. this is why the Newars are demandig for autonomy. So that they can preserve their own bagmaya for the generation to come. This is an open secret but no body wants to talk about it. Have you ever had time to count how much Govt. revenue is spent for publication of books on ethnic languages ? Have you thought about how important the languages of nepal ? Hundreds of researchers flock in Nepal in study of Nepalese languages but no interest has shown from ruling govt. WHY ? Any one has answer for it ? If you keep quite don’t bother other’s CHULO what is cooking there.they cook and eat for them selves to save their own right to live.
Umesh ji ,
jin bona ,nena tara tho bisayele comment soya dikka jula.thu pinsa comment maya,mathu pinsa mathusan comment choyegu jaka khana.
I think umeshji u provide some article about” sanghiya rajya” or “Swasasan” in the simple language not the leader’s Bhashan about that.I think its not only demand of Newars so why comment only to Newars.
Thats all.Happy New Year 2007 for all.
nabin
To my mind, main thing is quality education and good governance. People can not be empowered and truely mobilised only with such tings which are happening now but main thing is how to change our thinking, attitude and behaviur. Without appropriate socio-economic model, we can not have true peace and stability.Let us take example, kathmandu city is cleaned in morning by many young women like Pode, Chyame Why?. We rarely talk about community planning, design, health habit, etiquette and co-operative culture to manage our environment like waste management, water supply, drainage, green belt, community parks, libraries, market,link roads etc.Even in same jati, one think other untouchable and they are looked down by superior, still they want autonomous without being properly educated. Is not it very dangerous? We ,infact, need very clear planning and goal to make people really empowered and educated so that they will have equal right in every sector.
Dear Friends,
Lets relocate our Capital and let Ne:wa free in their Valley. We will see how do they do in future.
I agree BHAI PHUTE GAWAR LUTE. This Maoist leader had put ofrward the SOLGAN of “Autonomy” in the for their pupularity within ethinic group while they are struggling for their existnace. They will not do naything, Remember Prachanda’s comments for Pakistna in INDIA. How variable they are!
I totally agree with Shree Kamal’s comment. Newar in Kathmandu has never been the deprived class of our society.Nor they can be classified as the downtrodden
people. Be it the Rana period, Panchayat era , Congress, Communist or any other mainstream political parties (except for the Sadbhawana)they have always been getting the lion’s hare in their lot. More than that, Newar can be considered instrumental in in the policy level in the afore mentioned political systems and parties. Now it is utter farcial on their part to demand and claim a seperate state for them. In the current state of affairs, Newars have been basking the privileges no less than that Bahun and Kshetries have been doing. There have been oppressed class in every caste and region, and there is no guarantee that the so called indegeneous group will thrive even if the Nation is restructured with states as demanded by these shrewd ethenic or indegeneous leaders.
माथिका कोमेन्टहरु पढदा नेपालीहरुको मानसिकता अझै पनि कति संकुचित छ भन्ने कुरा प्रस्टै देखिन्छ । कोमेन्टकर्ताहरुले संघिय गणतन्त्र भयको देशहरु विखण्डण भयको कतिवटा उदाहरण दिन सक्नुहुन्छ त्यो बुझ्न पाय राम्रो हुने थियो । संसारको जुनसुकै देशको ईतिहास हेरे पनि एउटा कुरा के प्रस्ट हुन्छ भने जहां असमानता हुन्छ त्यहां बिखण्डण हुन्छ । नेपाल भनेको मेची देखि महाकाली सम्म फैलियको छ र यहांको सम्पूर्ण जनता नेपली हुन र उनिहरुको धर्म, भाषा, संस्कृति नेपाली हो त्यसैले सबै जनताले समान् अधिकार् पाउनु पर्दछ, त्यसको लागि उनिहरुको धर्म, भाषा, संस्कृति सबैलाई नेपाली भन्ने समान् अधिकार दिईनु पर्द्छ जस्ले गर्दा एकातर्फ सम्पूर्ण रास्ट्रीय निधिको संरक्षण र सम्बर्धन् हुनुको साथै समस्त जनताको समानुपातिक बिकास हुन्छ न कि एउटा धर्म, एउटा भाषा र एउटा जाती मात्रको बिकास होस। आज सम्मको नेपालमा यहि भैरहेको छ – संसारको अगाडि भने बुद्ध नेपालको पुत्र भनेर भिख माग्दै ल्याउंछ्न नेपालमा भने बुद्ध धर्मको लागि सुको खर्च गर्न सक्दैनन, खस भाषा लाई मात्र सरकारी मान्यता छ अरु भाषा भाषिलाई लोक सेवा पास गर्नु भनेको हिमाल चढनु भन्दा पनि गार्हो छ । नेपालको सबै जाति नेपाली हुने तर उनिहरुको भाषा भने नेपाली नभयर नेवारी, तामाङी, गुरुङ, मगर् हुने यो कहां सम्मको न्याय हो?
माथि एक जना महानुभाबले नेवारहरुले अरुलाइ “खंय चा” भन्छन् भनेर चित्त दुखाउनु भयको रहेछ । नेवार भाषामा खस भाषा बोल्ने हरुलाई “खय” भन्छ त्यो कुनै होच्याउने शब्द होईन बल्कि खस भाषिहरुले भोटको मान्छेलाई भोटे भन्नु जस्तै मात्र हो। अब आयो “चा” को कुरा यो नेवारहरु कसैलाई होच्याउनेको रुपमा नभै बानिको रुपमा प्र्योग गर्छन् जस्तै आफ्नै छोरालाई पनि “बाबु” भनेर बोलाउनु को सट्टा “बाउचा” भनेर बोलाउंछन त्यसैले यसलाई अन्यथा लिईनु हुन्न।
माथि एक, दुइजना कोमेन्टकर्ताहरुले नेवारहरुको वैभवमाथि सार्है ईर्ष्या गर्नु भयको रहेछ तर उहां हरुले नेवार हरु जस्तै नेपालको अरु जात जातिले पनि मेहनति र उद्यमि हुन सिके देश छिटै उंभो लाग्छ भनेर नजानेकालाइ सिकाइ दिने गरे देशमा विखण्डणको भन्दा मिलनको भाव फैलिन्छ।
I am totally shocked to hear that every caste is demanding for their own federal government. It is absurd to make such filthy demands. Even Newars, who are the richest, are demanding for it, which is a joke. They have been always taking opportunities to enjoy power and money since the history of Nepal. How come they demand for their own sovereignity? They do not deserve to fall on scheduled caste or impoverished caste. What is happening in Nepal Yaar? Madhesis are demanding their own freedom, gurung, kirat, magar, etc .. are doing so too. I wonder if there will be a civil war in the future…
Even I agree Newar are the most Richest community in Nepal……It is not necessary for jatiya bullshit….
Tyo bhasan garnae haru KTM ko New King banna lagaeko jasto lagyo malai..
Estai ho bhane baru Rajtantra nai Thik thiyo atleast auta singo Nepal ma ta baseeko thiyau….
Bholee yahi kura ma ragat ko khola bagneecha..
Please stop this jatiya raj….
Actually n nonsense things ae demanding by so called leaders. actually what does mean sanghaya rajya? just they dream to adminstrate the country. bt never thought about people, those people who are suffering day by day .One group of nepal always doing politics name of janajati and wants to be a hero. actually those janajati or dalit or madeshi whatever who lives in country side all are suffering from different things, like as they is no any medicine facility, no water, no electricity, no education, no employment and of course no human rights at all.
like such situation we have in one hand , but in other hand like karnali where till date people have to go there by foot. i mean there is no any means to go, those leader have you thought anytime, how can these areas children able to go school, what is the condition of women in these area. everyyear many womem and children died cause of no medicine in that are. and people are poor and government is not focusing these area and never priorety. and they have no any access of national politics so who forward their voices. like such are either janajati, dalit or Bahun all are in difficult situation. In the name of jati and janati so called few rich people geting all the resource in kathmandu. look some faces in ktm , since panchyat who are in power after king…
thought and yesterday i saw picture in this blog , yes same people in the dash. what does it mean.
please thought seriousely and raise the voice who are really voiceless.
I think this is democracy where everyong get justic,where no impunity and everybody should respect and everybody should equal before the law. but name of democracy , really misusing these words in nepal.
It is sad to say like student, who are the mirror of society , they are also demanding good cause but doing bad way. and what normal people follow for their right.I feel sad when i read the news student vandalised and burned police van , that moment ane police was inside the van. is that news was correct, these organisor have no humanity, i can say only few things.
yes, so we have to thought what we are doing and what we are demanding before doing something. and what we give society as a nepali and what we are demanding and which way.
today terai bandha, oh, god that so called sadvhawana party doind indian politics and want to nepal seperate as i understood, if not why there are treating people such way. toda morning in janakpur, these organizor what they did with simple pasale.and and tha political party has represent government itself but what they are doing and their method for demanding.
and lastely where is rayamaghi report? and why not they are not punishing those guilty person? but name of revolutionery student , they are beating RPP caders, is this democracy? can not they assemble peacefully? some nepali writers bias with them.actually who respect democracy and human rights, look deeply HR document, is this correct way to punish them. yes, guilty person should punish according to national law .
and in the issue of ambasoder, it should be national intrest not vagbanda but leaders are taking them as a gift of janaandolan 2. No , it is not gift, seriousely i am saying ambassdor are country representative but leaders are treating as a property. are they competent? have they some knowledge of interational relation? this is crucial issue. ad we had already bad image in international arena that in the time of security council election, how many vote nepal got? and from that we can guess what is our situation in international arena? which capacity we have as a ambassdor? and foreign ministry just as a BHATA KHANE THALO.
anyway this is our country, but we people have to be careful when we are participating national issue.
and please care upon method of demanding. plaese student leader not to vandalise property and not hamper normal life. and same massage for other.
hope you will read and commen on my view. may be some spelling wrong cause i am not checking.
jay hos.
happy english new year and hope this new year will bring happy of all nepalis life.
MM
नेवार हरु कहिले पनि पीडित जाती हैन । सधैं सत्ता को नजिक बसेर फाईदा लिने ब्यापारी हरु हुन नेवार । होला नेवार भित्र पनि पीडित हरु , तर नेवार हरु ले आफु पीडित भन्दै काठमाडौं उपत्यका लाई नेवार प्रदेश बनाउने नारा दिएको चाँही खालि अरु जाती हरु माथि शासन गर्न खोज्नु मात्रै हो । बाहुन पछि अरु जाती लाई “खेँ चा” भनेर हेप्ने अनि होच्याउने जाती नेवार नै हो ।
जातियता को कुरा ले कस्तो प्रभाव पर्छ भन्ने कुरा को बिचार नगरि उठाइएको हल्का फुल्का कुरा हरु पछि भएंकर हुन सक्छ । तराई बन्द को बारे मा त उमेश जि चुप बस्नु भयो नि ? ? अस्ती त उपत्यका बन्द को वकलत गर्ने को लेख थियो नि ?
किन बिनाश काले बुद्दि नेपालि हरुमा आइरहेछ ,जातिये शाशन को नारा ले भाइ फुटे गवार लुटे हुने त होइन?हाम्रो देश पनि? कस्को उक्साइ मा लागि रहेछौ हामि हरु!हामिले त य़ेति स्यानो देश् मा किन बिखण्ड्न र युद्दको भुमि बनाउन खोजि रहेको छौ?जाति बाद को पछि किन लगिरहेका छौ?जातिये युद्द ,ग्रीह युद्द किन निम्त्याइरहेका छौ?के हामिले शान्त दिमाग् ले सहि शाशन ब्यवश्था ल्याउन सक्दैनौ?अलि नेपालि भावनाले सोचौ , सबै नेपालि एक हुने र एउटै जाति बनाउने हाम्रो(हामि सबैको) हातमा छ !हामि कुनै ब्यक्तिगत स्वर्थको पछि नलागि सबैको हित हुने तरिकाले सोच्न सक्दैनौ?कसैलाइ नेता बनाउन र भोट् बटुलन स्वर्थिहरुको पछि नलागौ! पहिला दिर्घकालिन शान्ति हुन दिउ अनि जातिये समस्या को समाधान्को खोजि सहि तरिकाले खोजौ!अहिले देश नै हराउन नखोजौ,रात रहे अग्रात पलाउछ भन्ने उखान नबिर्सिउ!नेपालि सथिभाइहरु,अरुको भट्काउ मा नलागौ ,भबि पुस्ताको भबिस्य पनि नबिगरौ !हामि नेपालि जाति हौ भनेर आफुलाइ चिनाउने प्रयत्न गरौ!जात भात छेत्र सबै कुरो होइन पहिला शान्ति आयेमा सुख ाऔने सम्भवना हुन्छ भन्ने सोचौ!